Are you worried about getting the jab?

So many different vaccines, it's confusing.

I'm very lucky not to have any serious underlying conditions so I think I'll wait a while before rushing in. Can completely understand the urgency some people feel about it, but I wish there wasn't so much negatuve feedback about after affects.

Are you worried about getting the jab?

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A Sydney man, who today received his fourth dose of a coronavirus vaccine, has said he doubled up on AstraZeneca and Pfizer to give him greater immunity against the worrying disease.  Tom Lee, a 34-year-old from Sydney, said he was feeling “fine” after his second Pfizer dose this afternoon.

 

“I’ve seen people feeling sick after the second Pfizer. I'm hoping it doesn't happen to me,” he said.

“All the Americans are vaccinated on this type of vaccine and they seem OK.”

 

 

 

Bizarre IMO ... hope he doesn't suffer any after effects. Attention seeking ???

More fake news!!!

 received his fourth dose

 

Why and how when people can't get their 1st?

All Americans SEEM to be OK, crikey, and at 34 years old if his immune system can't destroy SARS viruses, so if his understanding of being healthy is to use drugs then he is way off the track of normality.
Corona-19 is a virus INFECTION, it is NOT a disease until it clogs the lungs with gunk.

Mild and Moderate Cases

As the infection travels your respiratory tract, your immune system fights back. Your lungs and airways swell and become inflamed. This can start in one part of your lung and spread.

About 80% of people who have COVID-19 get mild to moderate symptoms. You may have a dry cough or a sore throat. Some people have pneumonia, a lung infection in which the alveoli are inflamed.

Doctors can see signs of respiratory inflammation on a chest X-ray or CT scan. On a chest CT, they may see something they call “ground-glass opacity” because it looks like the frosted glass on a shower door.

The ravings of politicians, the media, the health non-experts must think that the SARS viruses are worse killers than the Black Plague when seeing and hearing the exaggerated  bul***it and fear-mongering just to make $10.00 per jab for Mr Pfizer and shareholders, after making $3.5 billion profit in the first 3 months of 2021, plus the GSK-Pfizer massive medicinal production facility built in Wuhan, China in 2018.

All that information is on the Internet to prove that Covid-19 is to make wealthy people more wealthy. 

Are you related to Beems, you both seem to be on planet of the zombies.

You must have missed the part about millions dying, millions more getting VERY sick and millions more having ongoing health issues, all while the world has been shutdown, in particular international travel was heavily disrupted.....yet millions were and still are dying/getting sick/having ongoing health issues.

Obviously it hasn't touched you, hence you don't see/feel the pain, like many others you don't think it's a problem.

Try to use your brain and THINK. Why would over 200 countries, many who despise each other, get together to make out that the virus is bad when it's not just to be able to sell a vaccine.

Use some common sense, this is not about selling vaccines, pharmaceutical companies don't need a hand to make money, they were already one of the best performing sectors in the world. You don't destroy economies to give one sector more money. Ridiculous rubbish that you are sprouting. 

THINK about the numbers that would have been involved if no lockdowns happened, if the virus was left to run rampant, THAT was the main issue, hospitals would not be able to handle the numbers, vast numbers more would have died because they would not have been able to be cared for.

 

Yea Mak, I have the same info from my cousins (specialist doctors), data from other cousins (in legal field), and some facts from a Government member who I trust.

So how much is the majority of the Government lying - well what about Qld Premier (old Anna) totally denied and refused to answer a question about people being pissed off because they couldn't see their dying loved ones, yet she brings in sportsman/sportswoman, the rich, etc. There is a double standard here. A lot of normal family Aussies are isolating, quarantining, or following the rules, and we get this isolated lot who think they have a right to go outside the square to do what they want. This stupid Premier needs a kick in the arse and make her brain react, there ARE people out there who want to be with their loved ones as they pass. I bet if permitted, they would do double shift in isolation or in Quarantine just to have seen their loved ones.

https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-affair/coronavirus-aussies-frustrated-over-covid19-restriction-double-standard/8e52c71f-71a4-4561-a88c-109299b4b392

 

Beemee - Only 21 hours ago you said:

"No more replies from me either, I will wait till Christmas and will take delight in saying I warned you of you this."

You lied........

Darn right BeeMee re that piece of work  Annastacia Palaszczuk she is a mean woman that is only interested in the footballers, the rich and celebs and cares nothing about anyone that has a real problem --

I thought I heard someone in the background? Guess it was an empty echo of someone I don't comment to.

Plan B - I don't know if this is true or not as I didn't get  a link in an email. But apparently a Priest has been hounding the PM to vaccinate the homeless. But nothing happened. Now all of a sudden this Priest has the vaccine is doing the jabs at his church.

If ever the whole planet needed a fact finding expedition, its now. Morrison has done nothing for the homeless who can't isolate or go quarantine. They are as much on the frontline as our medical staff. That to me spells loudly that Morrison wants them off the planet. Then he gives the okay for over 60's to have AZ knowing full well that is comes with risks.

That smacks of a massive cull of the unwanted, those who have a reliance on pensions. He needs a wake up call, all people are equal in Australia whether he likes it or not.

Geez, why is it so bloody hard to do what 2 carpenters are doing in the USA, they are building out of wood, skip bin sized accommodation with solar and a battery for lighting only. It gives them a warm area out of the cold and rain. It is done for very little money and these units can be moved to another area if the homeless person needs to move. Gives a warm feeling to those who this type of thing and shame the Government in any country for doing sweet F.A.

 

BeeMee you are so right YES the Wayside chapel in Sydney, they do a great job for the homeless Bless them!

 

Yes, Morrison couldn't care less for anyone that is not wealthy or important -- and you might be right I am sure he would like to be rid of such people and the older folk as well.

All Morrison cares about is jobs and MONEY and talking rot of what he is going to do -- but does FA -- yes he appears to be but behind the scenes, it is all taken away -- like he took heaps from NDIS and now is  said to be GIVING millions, typical of him Howard used to do the same

One wonders PlanB if all the money he is dishing out to gas, oil and coal wouldn't be better spent on things like making sure all were safely in a house of their own, had top medical treatment, maybe dental in some areas. Over the last month or so, with all of thee 3 area he has offered out about 800 - 100 million.  And 600 million of that was for gas in one area.

I got an email that was blunt, oh so blunt that I can't put it up here, I'd be sacked haha. The Equation was...  Morrison = Hitler, Australia = Death Camp, Australians = Prisoners, QR Code = ( Branding by number (or The Australian Card no one wanted ). There was more but this was the cleanest part of it.

 

 had MY FIRST JAB  earlier this month,  get my second on 26th august,   no after effects, except a sore arm,   anyone who doesnt get the  vaccination [except for medical reasons]   is very very silly,   apart from being selfish,   ,    it will come in that anyone who DOESNT get  vaccinated will be unable to go to work,      firms will not run the risk of infecting a whole workplace , on the whim of a few,     looking at the world,   i cannot understand anyone NOT getting it,  this is going to be around for a long time,   why would you not insure yourself,  and your family,  against getting this virus,     

Agree cats, the fear of death for some people is overwhelming.


Seven new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in VictoriaBy Cassandra Morgan

Victoria has recorded seven new local coronavirus cases.

Four of those cases are in the Ariele Apartments complex in Maribyrnong in Melbourne’s north-west, all on the third floor of the complex. The complex was visited by two removalists while infectious.

One of the new cases is a man in his 60s, who visited the MCG on July 10 between 4pm and 8pm.

We’ll bring you more on this developing story shortly.

SMH 14/07/21

French President Emmanuel Macron tests positive to coronavirus - ABC News

ABC 

 

PARIS, July 13 (Reuters) - Hundreds of thousands of people in France rushed to set up appointments to get vaccinated against the coronavirus after the president warned that the unvaccinated would face restrictions aimed at curbing the quick spread of the Delta variant.

Unveiling sweeping measures to combat a surge in infections, Emmanuel Macron said on Monday night that vaccination would not be compulsory for the general public for now but stressed that restrictions would focus on those who are not vaccinated.

 

Well done Mac!!!!!!!

 

 

WHO proposes fresh coronavirus mission to China and lab audits

A WHO-led team spent four weeks in and around the central city of Wuhan with Chinese researchers and said in a joint report in March that the virus had probably been transmitted from bats to humans through another animal.

But countries including the United States and some scientists have demanded further investigation, particularly into the Wuhan Institute of Virology which was conducting research into bats.

“Finding the origins of this virus is a scientific exercise that must be kept free from politics. For that to happen, we expect China to support this next phase of the scientific process by sharing all relevant data in a spirit of transparency,” Tedros said.  

China has called the theory that the virus may have escaped from a Wuhan laboratory “absurd” and said repeatedly that “politicising” the issue would hamper investigations……

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/16/who-proposes-fresh-coronavirus-mission-to-china-and-lab-audits?taid=60f1efcec5720500017c268c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

I heard on this morning news that China is going to test all people in the city of Wuhan..

... which is some 11 million tests.

Hubei province map

 

A therapy made from a Covid patient's own blood is being trialled to treat lung scarring that's left after hospitalisation.

Doctors at Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust in London have begun a small trial using patients’ white blood cells.

 

 A very interesting it of research toot

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-57837432

Bit late for my friend.

Frank was a bit younger than me and for all the right reasons and without any peer pressure, chose to have the Astrazenica vaccination.

First jab all was well, a minor soreness on the jab site but other than that okay and chipper.

Second jab at the proposed right time after the first, he died.

He had NO covid-19 at all. He in fact had no real reason to have the jab, as the area he lives is and has been free from the virus every since this crap started.

Family wanted answers, which is normal. Officials told them a flat and firm NO!  They demanded to have the autopsy, but were flatly told NO!

Whether you believe it or not, there is only one concession that autopsies are not done, and that is if in hospital with something that is known to be terminal. There is no need for an autopsy then.

So why in hell did they not want to do it? What are they really hiding? Why don't they want you to find out what really killed Frank? (or anyone else for that matter).

No wonder people are getting up in arms about it, and telling people they suspect something isn't kosher. I lost a good friend of over 30 years to this vaccination, if it had of been the Covid itself, I would have understood.

So sorry to hear that BeeMee,

What was the effect your friend had after he got that second vaccination?

Beemee - your story has holes, a hospital WILL provide a reason for death. The death certificate WILL show a reason for the death. If not the police should be involved. 

People that do have an an adverse effect with the vaccine have had it on the FIRST dose, if the first dose is good the second has always been fine too.

You do realise that people who have the vaccine do die from other causes don't you.

The very few deaths have not been kept secret, as YOU have pointed out previously so why keep this one secret? More to this story.......

 

Greg, Yes hospitals or Drs will show a reason for death -- it is not always correct,  if there has not been an Autopsy,  sometimes there is a lot of guesswork and they get away with it.

Sometimes even the time is wrong,  I have seen this happen myself at least twice

 

PlanB - yes mistakes happen AND if they really wanted to cover it up they would just lie about the cause, not a response of, "Officials told them a flat and firm NO!"

 

Yes Greg they VERY often bury their mistakes

Well it seems we are in the dark. Confirmed with wife Liz and she said GOVT stepped and said NO!

Aw c'mon. anyone in the right mind would have to question why? What the hell do they have to hide?

PlanB - not much of a reaction actually. Tightness in chest, bit hard to catch a breath, then all over red rover. A darn autopsy would have said what had failed internally. Frank had no sign of the virus so that to me states no one wants that to get out.

PlanB - Yes they do bury mistakes. Stated my grandmother died of something else instead of the real reason. This was not all related to the virus, she died in 1990.

PlanB - Watch for more news soon to appear. Police who are whistle blowers and a lawyer or lawyers are involved. This is gaining momentum and I hope if it can be done, I will be able to get an audio of the file. It is not on common uploading sites for fear of these whistle blowers, but all hell will be breaking loose soon. Not so much on the virus directly, but definitely on the legalities of what the Govt is doing to push ahead with the vaccines. Its all illegal.

 

Sorry to hear this Bee you sound that you are still in shock.

My 52 year old son had a reaction to the Astra, a month of testing and scanning and his symptoms have reduced, that being swollen feet and hands.  But his iron levels have dropped and his Liver is apparently not right from the testing.  

He says he feels better and after a month of off work he has returned but feels lethargic.

His second jab is not allowed to be the Astra... but the Pfizer so what that cocktail will come up with I don't know.

I have known two men one my grandfather in 1966 just fell asleep and never woke up from sitting in front of the tv as did another man the same age  76.  It does happen this may have been the case with your friend Bee.

Hubby and myself have travelled a fair bit around the globe and those trips have necessitated us having many jabs over the years, I sometimes wonder if these cocktails we have had at our ages has something to do with these last jab, but hubby is about to have his second jab and so far he has been fine from the cocktails;  I have yet to have anything.

 

 

Okay, which hospital, when was it, and name please? Oh I know, it's private and you can't say.....or don't want to say.

I can have this looked into if you are really honest.

 

Celia - Frank was just over 20 years younger than me. If it truly was "I fell asleep and didn't wake up" than why not an autopsy?

I know the first jab was AZ have no idea on the second one and right now Liz is in a mess to ask. She turned up at my place late yesterday, and with a whole lot of paperwork. Its all the correspondence with a lawyer and others. Its in writing and that's why I am unsure whether I say too much. It could ruin her chances for continuing the battle.

Greg - All your comments I usually ignore as I smell fear. You go on the attack and want to know the in and outs of a ducks ass. If you want info yourself go look for it. Other than the lies of the Govt and Health idiots, they are more facts out there than you have had hot dinners. I can only put all your questions as to the why's, where's and thou art's down to fear. You chose to get the Vaccination, so put up with the unknown. as I have said earlier on, we are going to know even more by this Christmas and then watch 2 - 5 years from now this vaccine will have another that no doubt will counteract the damage of this one - too late the damage will have been done.

Cripes I have 2 specialist surgeons in the family, they are more than capable of checking this out and coming back with facts.

 

Beemee - "If you want info yourself go look for it."

How is that possible without knowing at least which hospital? Obviously just more rubbish from you.

And why by Christmas, these vaccinations have been going on for months overseas, nothing yet.

 

 

Greg,  I do not need you to look into it I have done that as I was there both times and knew the times and the cause and have already gone further with it

I will be watching BeeMee thank for the info

PlanB - Just shows the lack of intelligence I'm dealing with here, I was referring to Beemee's comment.....obviously. Try reading the thread correctly.

Lack of intelligence applies to you also.

I said "If you want info yourself go look for it."which was in relation to looking anywhere but to our useless lot of Ministers. Djakarta has a huge death toll with those who have been fully vaccinated  with Sinovac which is the Chinese version. No, I am not that dim witted, I know we don't have that in Australia but the point is made, they are not as safe as everyone thinks. 

The Govt is NOT transparent and for trust in them to even start to improve they must have a proper list"   Covid-19 Fully vaccinated deaths,  Covid-19 direct disease deaths, and no hiding the truth either.

There are so many facts out there is one cars to look. Type in anything you want to know, but if I don't have the info to back something up, I need a minimum of 3 postings from 3 different areas/places/countries that has the same truths.

Greg said "And why by Christmas, these vaccinations have been going on for months overseas, nothing yet." So you are the type of person who lays a cement path and start walking on within 5 mins of it being laid? It takes time. No vaccine on this planet will ever work in 5 mins. Look how long thalidomide took to take affect on the unborn! Look how the polio vax didn't work fast enough, so many, although didn't get it, now walk with a limp, a side effect of the polio and/or vax failing to work fast enough.

 

 

Okay, which hospital, when was it, and name please? Oh I know, it's private and you can't say.....or don't want to say.

I can have this looked into if you are really honest.

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Greg that could have related to either myself OR BeeMee

Why??? It was Beemee who mentioned her friend in hospital, her friend who's death has been covered up. YOU didn't mention any friend in hospital in this thread.

Why??? It was Beemee who mentioned her friend in hospital, her friend who's death has been covered up. YOU didn't mention any friend in hospital in this thread.

BeeMee said

 No vaccine on this planet will ever work in 5 mins. Look how long thalidomide took to take affect on the unborn! Look how the polio vax didn't work fast enough, so many, although didn't get it, now walk with a limp, a side effect of the polio and/or vax failing to work fast enough.

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Yes, and these vaccinations have not been out long enough for anyone to know what the outcomes will be --if any down the track --  and there are so many missed messages coming from ALL, so can't blame people for being a bit wary of them.

 

My friend R who sends me info from the scientist phoned to day as he wanted a chat as he was feeling down.

His Uncle had the jab and so did his wife - she is 66 years old. After about 2 weeks from the second jab her arm started to swell up from the shoulder to the wrist and she is in pain.Back to the Doctor and when questioned as to whether it was the vax, he said a firm no. But taking x-rays anyway and the results should be in a day or two. What BS they feed the people? Even my family specialist Doctors have said not to say parts underlined in their correspondence as it goes against all the Medical Board has told them to say or not say. Its the doctors choice - open your mouth and get struck off the registry. Doctors are not permitted to discuss in depth about the pros and cons to persuade or dissuade your choice. Great! so who do you turn to for facts? Not the Govt or Health, they are of no help at all. 

Djakarta has lost 600 fully vaccinated doctors to Covid-19 or the jab or the combination of both. No one is saying exactly, got to lead the blind into doing what I am telling them to do. How many of the Scientist who invented all these Vax's have themselves had the jab? I haven't heard of any of them. I have heard of health workers and doctors but not these scientists.

 

As much as I would surely have the vaccine IF it was proved to be fine --as  I do have other vaccinations but boy oh boy  nothing gives a person any faith --in what is being told -- even their attitude when saying is not very convincing and we are getting to very desperate times with this virus now

I know 5 people that have had AZ jab

2 of them no side effect except a sore arm, one needs her husband to care for her because of muscle weakness,

One had to go into rehab to build up his muscles and the 5th is in ICU in hospital intubed with a ventilator on antibiotics for the last 2 weeks.

Its happening to anyone and yet they call it rare? Really? I would not believe this Government as long as my ass points to the ground.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-vaccine-34-year-old-woman-dies-from-tts-after-receiving-astrazeneca-vaccine/ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420 Its

BeeMee that site you put up came up with this

Haha, OMG, you are stupid. Yeah Ch9 are hiding stories.....NO

You just need to know how to find it properly, took me 2 seconds.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/covid19-vaccine-34-year-old-woman-dies-from-tts-after-receiving-astrazeneca-vaccine/ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420

 

ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420 my first code

ac25a074-1c53-485a-94d6-3cd327470420 Your code.

Now who's the stupid one?

If you were worth anything factual, you would have seen the link didn't work because of the words Its on the end.

Don't bother me anymore, you have proven yourself less intelligent than the higher one I gave you.

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