What is China up to? $$$

A map of south east asia showing the path a vessel took travelling from china to australia

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-02/chinese-research-vessel-tracked-defence-subs-western-australia/12009708

A high-tech Chinese research vessel has been detected mapping strategically important waters off the Western Australian coast where submarines are known to regularly transit.

Key points:

A Defence official said the ship was mapping waters used by Australian submarines to get to the South China Sea

A Border Force spokesperson said the Xiang Yang Hong 01 had stayed in international waters

In 2018, the Xiang Yang Hong 01 was found to be operating illegally within the Exclusive Economic Zone of Palau

 

In January and February, officials closely tracked the movements of the oceanographic ship as it conducted deepwater surveys in the Indian Ocean near Christmas Island and the Australian mainland.

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China announces expansion to weather modification program, artificial rain to cover area bigger than size of IndiaFriday December 4, 2020 - 19:18 EDT

China has revealed plans over the next five years to expand its experimental weather modification program, to cover an area greater than the size of India with artificial rainfall.

says breakthroughs in research and new technologies means the country will have a "developed weather modification system" by 2025.

It said the total area of artificial rainfall will cover more than 5.5 million square kilometres, while the area of hail suppression will cover about 580,000 square kilometres ? larger than Victoria.

"China will have a developed weather modification system by 2025, with breakthroughs in fundamental research [and development] in key technologies, steady improvements in modernisation and refined services, distinct enhancement in comprehensive prevention against safety risks," the statement said.

The State Council said weather modification will "intensify" in areas of mitigating drought, hail, fires and high temperatures, while also assisting agricultural production and preserving ecologically protected areas.

China has long experimented with weather modification, having experimented with cloud seeding to reduce rainfall .

Cloud seeding ? specifically, glaciogenic cloud seeding ? is where tiny drops of super-cooled water that are not growing efficiently enough to become raindrops are converted into ice by adding silver iodide.

ready to fall from the sky. The process only works if conditions are just right.

The process is used in Australia over the Snowy Mountains in NSW as well as Hydro Tasmania's cloud-seeding operation, which delivers silver iodide to clouds via light aircraft.

More recently, Chinese scientists have revealed they will use satellites and rockets as part of an ambitious project to artificially create rainfall ? despite doubts surrounding its efficacy.

The $19 million Tianhe Project ? which translates into Sky River ? is the world's largest artificial rain experiment, which aims to divert excess water vapour above the Yangtze river basin towards drier parts of the country, according to local media.

Scientists from China's Tsinghua and Qinghai Universities put forward the project in 2015. It requires constructing an artificial air corridor to carry the water vapour.

More recently, they have moved to develop satellites and rockets that would then monitor vapour presences and movement and redirect it to create precipitation.

Thanks Incognito. Good news about there being less people in China now who want to eat wildlife.

The weather modification program sounds interesting. If successful perhaps it could have useful ramifications for our Australian droughts.

Hope Celia is OK ... she hasn't posted since the new format started (to the best of my knowledge).

HI Agreed they stop trading with us so we have to stop trading with them and find alternative sources to purchase from, there are plenty out there

Not sure I like the idea of weather modification could end up causing all sorts of problems, what else do China want to control??

No not seen Celia, maybe it is too confusing for her, very hard to find current comments when you click the recent ones and they go to page one of topics all the time.

I feel I am typing in the dark, not sure where I am!

Just reading about Australian coal, we apparently have 80 ships loaded up with coal that is being refused by China;

China on the other hand is letting their country go cold without power [and heating ]as they don't have enough heating, their poor quality coal is not working to heat up the cities and countries because they refuse to accept Australian coal. Poor Chinese sitting at home in the freezing cold because the Communists have their heads stuck in the soil! Talk about idiots.

Hello Jethro long time no hear, but I see the date is 5th December and I have not got a clue where these posts are going to! LOL

That's interesting about the coal being held up, how is that going to effect the Australian economy, and the poor people without heating is disgusting.

China has banned our produce, seafood, wine, coal, but hey they haven't touched the Iron Ore.

About time these Government wankers in Canberra tell these a-holes to accept our goods without giant tariffs (800% is a bit rich), or Iron Ore will be stopped. That WILL hurt as we have the best Iron Ore in the world and they get 83% of ours.

Feeling sorry for Galapagos Island area, even with a huge protected area these bullies can't access, they are right on the fringe and taking in huge hauls of fish before they even get to the protected area.

The whole damn world needs to stop ALL exports to them until they tow the line. Throw out ALL Chinese out of every country and send them home. DON'T buy anything Chinese. (I do, I will buy from overseas if all I have to choose is damn Chinese rubbish).

Don't you think it will hurt Australia more if we stop the exports of iron ore to China?

Just seen the message bell as I logged in. YLC don't have a decent IT working on this site, because I was Assistant ADMIN on another site and where it came to be topics of contention, this was NOT on the main board, it was a sub heading that required a log in but it also was not available to anyone who had not been on that board for 2 plus years. No outsider could access it as they can here.

I am fed up with kiss arsing China, they are bullies and as corrupt as they come. They need taking down a peg or two.

The ominous signs China is preparing for WAR as a former Australian army chief predicts armed conflict within TEN years - but not everyone agrees

Jim Molan, a former Australian Army major-general, feared China could go to war with the United States within a decade. The Liberal senator predicted what that trigger could be. A former senior Australian Army commander fears a war with China could happen with a decade. Liberal senator Jim Molan, who was a major-general before entering Parliament and led Coalition Forces in Iraq in 2004, said the Communist power was increasingly aggressive

Australian Liberal senator Jim Molan points to signs China could go to war with the US in 10 years | Daily Mail Online

Powerful national security boss declares the 'drums of war' are beating in chilling warning that calls for Australia to prepare for combat with China to protect 'our precious liberty'

Home Affairs Secretary Michael Pezzullo said Australia should be ready for war  He said the nation must do whatever it takes to protect the country's liberty Mr Pezzullo said Australia must remain armed and strong amid a growing threat  Comments come as tensions with China escalate amid deteriorating relations

By BRYANT HEVESI FOR DAILY MAIL AUSTRALIA

PUBLISHED: 01:50 AEST, 27 April 2021 | UPDATED: 02:10 AEST, 27 April 2021

A powerful national security leader has warned the 'drums of war' are beating closer as tensions with China escalate, as he declares Australia must do whatever it takes to protect 'our precious liberty'. 

Home Affairs Secretary Michael Pezzullo said in his Anzac Day message on Sunday while Australia should always search for peace, it must also be prepared to 'send off our warriors to fight the nation's wars'. 

He added free nations 'must remain armed, strong and ready for war, even as they lament the curse of war.' 

His comments came on the same day Defence minister Peter Dutton said conflict between China and Taiwan 'should not be discounted' as the communist nation had ramped up its military activity as it sought reunification. 

Beijing also warned last week it 'reserves the right to make further reactions' after the federal government tore up Victoria's Belt and Road initiative with China, adding the move was damaging to bilateral relations.  

'Today, as free nations again hear the beating drums and watch worryingly the militarisation of issues that we had, until recent years, thought unlikely to be catalysts for war, let us continue to search unceasingly for the chance for peace while bracing again, yet again, for the curse of war,' Mr Pezzullo said.  

Pictured, a Chinese naval ship sails into Sydney Harbour in June 2019 during a secret reciprocal visit. Australia is being warned the 'drums of war' are beating as tensions with China escalate +8 

Pictured, a Chinese naval ship sails into Sydney Harbour in June 2019 during a secret reciprocal visit. Australia is being warned the 'drums of war' are beating as tensions with China escalate

Home Affairs Secretary Michael Pezzullo (pictured) said free nations 'must remain armed, strong and ready for war' in an Anzac Day address on Sunday +8 

Home Affairs Secretary Michael Pezzullo (pictured) said free nations 'must remain armed, strong and ready for war' in an Anzac Day address on Sunday

'By our resolve and our strength, by our preparedness of arms, and by our statecraft, let us get about reducing the likelihood of war – but not at the cost of our precious liberty. 

'War might well be folly, but the greater folly is to wish away the curse by refusing to give it thought and attention, as if in so doing, war might leave us be, forgetting us perhaps.'

Mr Pezzullo said free nations continue to face the 'sorrowful challenge' of 'tyranny's threat to freedom' just as they did when Dwight D. Eisenhower was US president in the 1950s and dealing with the Soviet's military power.  

'In a world of perpetual tension and dread, the drums of war beat - sometimes faintly and distantly, and at other times more loudly and ever closer,' he said. 

'Free nations pity the burden of arms which drain the wealth and labour of all – a wasting of strength that thwarts true abundance and happiness for all peoples.' 

Mr Pezzullo noted 2021 marked the 70th anniversary of the military alliance between Australia and the United States.

He said Australia must remember the warnings of two American army generals - Mr Eisenhower and Douglas MacArthur - who Mr Pezzullo said 'had known war waged totally, and brutally'.

'We must search always for the chance for peace amidst the curse of war, until we are faced with the only prudent, if sorrowful, course - to send off, yet again, our warriors to fight the nation's wars,' Mr Pezzullo said. 

 

Chinese Navy personnel are seen onboard a Chinese Navel ship after it arrives at Garden Island Naval Base in Sydney +8      

Chinese Navy personnel are seen onboard a Chinese Navel ship after it arrives at Garden Island Naval Base in Sydney

Mr Dutton said on Sunday China had been clear about reunification with Taiwan and described it was one of their long-held objectives.

'If you look at any of the rhetoric that is coming out of China, from spokesmen particularly in recent weeks and months in response to different suggestions that have been made, they have been very clear about that goal,' he told the ABC. 

'Obviously there is a significant amount of (military) activity, and there is an animosity between Taiwan and China.

'For us, we want to make sure we continue to be a good neighbour in the region, that we work with our partners and with our allies, as nobody wants to see conflict between China and Taiwan or anywhere else.'

Taiwan, backed by the US and Japan, has endured a longstanding conflict with Beijing since the Chinese civil war in 1949 and now its residents are more on edge than ever after watching the erosion of independence in Hong Kong.

The People's Liberation Army have repeatedly invaded Taiwan's airspace and maritime borders as 'Wolf Warrior diplomats' ramp up their rhetoric about annexing the territory.

Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen poses for a group photo in front of the Taiwan navy's new boat - amid growing pressure from China in the South China Sea and political tension worldwide +8 

Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen poses for a group photo in front of the Taiwan navy's new boat - amid growing pressure from China in the South China Sea and political tension worldwide

Australia's Defence minister Peter Dutton said there has been a significant amount of military activity as animosity between China and Taiwan grows (pictured, Chinese troops take part in marching drills ahead of the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China in 2019) +8 

Australia's Defence minister Peter Dutton said there has been a significant amount of military activity as animosity between China and Taiwan grows (pictured, Chinese troops take part in marching drills ahead of the 70th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China in 2019) 

Tensions have soared in the disputed South China Sea where Beijing has claimed control of maritime areas legally belonging to Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam and Brunei.

China also engaged in a border scuffle with India last year where dozens of soldiers were killed on both sides. 

Internally President Xi Jinping has also moved to stamp out freedoms in Hong Kong, Tibet and Xinjiang Province with brutal campaigns against religious minorities and pro-democracy advocates.

Former Defence minister Christopher Pyne earlier this month warned Australia could be thrown into a military conflict with China in a matter of years.

Mr Pyne said war may be inevitable with the authoritarian state as it becomes more aggressive and belligerent with its neighbours. 

'Five years ago, I would have said that the possibility was very unlikely - now I would have to say that the possibility is more likely than it was then,' he said in a speech at the University of Adelaide. 

Australian Army soldiers from the 4th Regiment, Royal Australian Artillery gather for an inspection in August 2020. Former Defence minister Christopher Pyne this month warned of a war between Australia and China 

Australian Army soldiers from the 4th Regiment, Royal Australian Artillery gather for an inspection in August 2020. Former Defence minister Christopher Pyne this month warned of a war between Australia and China

'Not a cyber war, but a real one involving loss of life, destruction of military platforms, with aggressors and defenders on different sides,' he said. 

'This isn't rhetoric. This is something that you and I may well have to confront in the next five to 10 years.'

Australia's relationship with China, its biggest trading partner, began to drastically deteriorate in April last year when Prime Minister Scott Morrison called for an independent inquiry into the origins of coronavirus, which first appeared in Wuhan at the end of 2019. 

The plea for transparency over Covid-19 infuriated the Communist Party who retaliated by imposing arbitrary bans and tariffs on billions of dollars worth of Australian goods including barley, wine, cotton, seafood, beef, copper, and coal.

Foreign Minister Marise Payne announced last week Victoria's Belt and Road Initiative agreement with Beijing had been cancelled under new foreign veto powers.

China's embassy in Australia responded swiftly, expressing 'strong displeasure and resolute opposition' to Senator Payne's announcement.

How China's feud with Australia has escalated

2019: Australian intelligence services conclude that China was responsible for a cyber-attack on Australia's parliament and three largest political parties in the run-up to a May election.

April 2020: Australian PM Scott Morrison begins canvassing his fellow world leaders for an inquiry into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic. Britain and France are initially reluctant but more than 100 countries eventually back an investigation. 

April 15: Morrison is one of the few leaders to voice sympathy with Donald Trump's criticisms of the World Health Organization, which the US president accuses of bias towards China. 

April 21: China's embassy accuses Australian foreign minister Peter Dutton of 'ignorance and bigotry' and 'parroting what those Americans have asserted' after he called for China to be more transparent about the outbreak.  

April 23: Australia's agriculture minister David Littleproud calls for G20 nations to campaign against the 'wet markets' which are common in China and linked to the earliest coronavirus cases.  

April 26: Chinese ambassador Cheng Jingye hints at a boycott of Australian wine and beef and says tourists and students might avoid Australia 'while it's not so friendly to China'. Canberra dismisses the threat and warns Beijing against 'economic coercion'. 

May 11: China suspends beef imports from four of Australia's largest meat processors. These account for more than a third of Australia's $1.1billion beef exports to China. 

May 18: The World Health Organization backs a partial investigation into the pandemic, but China says it is a 'joke' for Australia to claim credit. The same day, China imposes an 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley. Australia says it may challenge this at the WTO. 

May 21: China announces new rules for iron ore imports which could allow Australian imports - usually worth $41billion per year - to be singled out for extra bureaucratic checks. 

June 5: Beijing warns tourists against travelling to Australia, alleging racism and violence against the Chinese in connection with Covid-19.  

June 9: China's Ministry of Education warns students to think carefully about studying in Australia, similarly citing alleged racist incidents.   

June 19: Australia says it is under cyber-attack from a foreign state which government sources say is believed to be China. The attack has been targeting industry, schools, hospitals and government officials, Morrison says.

July 9: Australia suspends extradition treaty with Hong Kong and offers to extend the visas of 10,000 Hong Kongers who are already in Australia over China's national security law which effectively bans protest.

August 18: China launches 12-month anti-dumping investigation into wines imported from Australia in a major threat to the $6billion industry. 

August 26: Prime Minster Scott Morrison announces he will legislate to stop states and territories signing deals with foreign powers that go against Australia's foreign policy. Analysts said it is aimed at China.

October 13: Trade Minister Simon Birmingham says he's investigating reports that Chinese customs officials have informally told state-owned steelmakers and power plants to stop Aussie coal, leaving it in ships off-shore.

November 2: Agriculture Minister David Littleproud reveals China is holding up Aussie lobster imports by checking them for minerals.

November 3: Barley, sugar, red wine, logs, coal, lobster and copper imports from Australia unofficially banned under a directive from the government, according to reports.

November 18: China releases bizarre dossier of 14 grievances with Australia. 

November 27: Australian coal exports to China have dropped 96 per cent in the first three weeks of November as 82 ships laden with 8.8million tonnes of coal are left floating off Chinese ports where they have been denied entry. 

November 28: Beijing imposed a 212 per cent tariff on Australia's $1.2 billion wine exports, claiming they were being 'dumped' or sold at below-cost. The claim is denied by both Australia and Chinese importers. 

November 30: Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lijian Zhao posted a doctored image showing a grinning Australian soldier holding a knife to the throat of an Afghan child. The move outraged Australians. 

December 12: Australian coal is added to a Chinese blacklist.

December 24: China suspends imports of Australian timber from NSW and WA after local customs officers say they found pests in the cargo.

January 11, 2021: Australia blocks $300million construction deal that would have seen state-owned China State Construction Engineering Corporation takeover Probuild. The bid was blacked over national security concerns. 

February 5, 2021: China confirms Melbourne journalist and single mother Cheng Lei has been formally arrested after being detained in August, 2020.

February 23, 2021: China accuses Australia of being in an 'axis of white supremacy' with the UK, USA, Canada and NZ in an editorial.

March 11, 2021: Australia is accused of genocide by a Communist Party newspaper editor. 

March 15, 2021: Trade Minister Dan Tehan announced he wants the World Trade Organisation to help mediate discussions between the two countries over the trade dispute. 

April 21, 2021: Foreign Minister Marise Payne announces Australia has scrapped Victoria's controversial Belt and Road deal with China using new veto powers

 

 

 

 

 

Xi flexes his muscles in the South China Sea by unveiling three new warships amid fresh sabre rattling at Taiwan 

China's newest assets include an amphibious helicopter carrier, a nuclear sub and a guided-missile cruiser.

In regards to China wanting so many things before they talk to sort the problems between them and us, there is one piece of information that needs to be said. 1. You can have a SWAT man at your door and when you open it, he/she then shoots you. (Direct confrontation - WAR) OR 2. You can have a SWAT man at your door and when you open it, you invite he/she in for coffee, then he/she shoots you. (Indirect confrontation - back door tactics to destroy you from the Inside). This IS what China is doing globally. I can put it no more succinctly than that. Plain and obvious, they want to control the world and dominate every country.

In regards to China wanting so many things before they talk to sort the problems between them and us, there is one piece of information that needs to be said. 1. You can have a SWAT man at your door and when you open it, he/she then shoots you. (Direct confrontation - WAR) OR 2. You can have a SWAT man at your door and when you open it, you invite he/she in for coffee, then he/she shoots you. (Indirect confrontation - back door tactics to destroy you from the Inside). This IS what China is doing globally. I can put it no more succinctly than that. Plain and obvious, they want to control the world and dominate every country.

Australia's military defences in the Top End given MASSIVE funding boost after chilling warning the 'drums of war' were beating in China 

Scott Morrison will announce new cash on Wednesday, which will improve ADF training facilities, weapons training simulation, and firing ranges in the Northern Territory.

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