What is China up to? $$$

A map of south east asia showing the path a vessel took travelling from china to australia

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-02/chinese-research-vessel-tracked-defence-subs-western-australia/12009708

A high-tech Chinese research vessel has been detected mapping strategically important waters off the Western Australian coast where submarines are known to regularly transit.

Key points:

A Defence official said the ship was mapping waters used by Australian submarines to get to the South China Sea

A Border Force spokesperson said the Xiang Yang Hong 01 had stayed in international waters

In 2018, the Xiang Yang Hong 01 was found to be operating illegally within the Exclusive Economic Zone of Palau

 

In January and February, officials closely tracked the movements of the oceanographic ship as it conducted deepwater surveys in the Indian Ocean near Christmas Island and the Australian mainland.

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I see that comments have been removed from this site why please?

Really Celia -- what were the comments? 

Interesting -- that they have been removed!

I noticed mine and Suzi's had been removed.

I noticed mine and Suzi's had been removed.

Most probably for reasons unknown somebody got offendedand reported the comments

and hence the comments were removed ???

Maybe, just maybe they are back!!!

Sounds like a communist plot!

China is checking out all the land it has bought from Australia. It is looking for oil and other natural resources this country has including our seafood. It's hoping its Coronavirus will reduce our population so that more Chinese can settle here.

Another post that should be removed. It insults the Chinese as a nation and compromises our security.

Jackie you are probably correct.

What appears to be happening is China sees a location and then builds a man made island in the area and calls it international waters around it.  

I hope they are not doing that in international waters off the Pilbra.

More likely they are making a safe canal for subs to use.

Why are you spreading FAKE information?

Australian Border Force was aware of the Chinese vessel’s presence and confirmed it had stayed within international waters. So what is the problem? The vessel did not enter the Australian Exclusive Economic Zone other than for a direct transit through the AEEZ when transiting past Christmas Island.So again I ask what are you really reporting?

 

 

I don't know what is happening - The corona virus was predicted in 1981 in Dean Krooz's book "The Eyes of Darkness".

In chapter 39 the Wuhan virus was created and Dr Li Chen was killed. 2020 was predicted as the date for a mass spread of the disease. Is China to blame??

 

The coronavirus was predicted even further back than 1981. The Book of Revelations to be exact.

 

Dean Koontz wrote a book with that title in 1981 but the precis of this book is: One year after her little boy Danny dies, his mother swears that she sees him in a stranger's car, and becoming obsessed with the mystery, she journeys to Las Vegas and the High Sierras in search of the truth. Don't think they relate. Perhaps it was another book of his. Sounds like his genre.

 

 

 I'd never heard of this fictional book till a friend from this site sent me a copy of the page it relates to.

 They say truth is stranger than fiction.

https://www.gulftoday.ae/culture/2020/03/02/netizens-think-a-1981-horror-novel-predicted-the-coronavirus-outbreak

 

 

 

Conspiracy theories spreading more rapidly and insidiously than Covid-19. It's unfortunate that so people have nothing more important to spend their time than just spreading these theories and historical(hysterical)predictions of doom and gloom.I do however acknowledge that some of the commemnts here are just "tongue in cheek". Thankfully we don't live in the US or some other third world country.

 

 

 

I'm thankful I don't live in China. Our comments would not be allowed for a start. I don't believe it's xenophobic or racist to want to protect our borders from contagious viruses or from potential foreign invaders either, otherwise what's the point in having a Defence Force?

China is flexing its muscle! Wait till they decide that any OZ government that wants to return ownership of our assets to the people of OZ and see how long they take to "protect" their interest.

I found it typical of the chinese gov. that they whined when we banned their people from coming here because of the virus but didn't hesitate to quarentine huge masses of their population and even forcibly lock them in their homes.

Two faced communist goervnment if ever I saw one.

You know what I think!.The Virus is a way to reduce the world population without going to war. The world cannot sustain the population increase the way it is going. That's my theory anyway. Not blaming anyone either.

I agree with you ronloby. Nature is fighting back to over population, excessive grasp for power, greed and a global evironmental disaster. 

Check out Bill Gate's Event 201. Bill Gate's is all about population control. Could easily biological war and this is a test run.

Taken from - Disinfo:Bill Gates is sponsoring the coronavirus

There was in fact an exercise “Event 201” that took place in October that was hosted by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, that focused on emergency preparedness in the event of a "severe pandemic." But it didn’t make real-life predictions about death tolls.

"To be clear, the Center for Health Security and partners did not make a prediction during our tabletop exercise. For the scenario, we modeled a fictional coronavirus pandemic, but we explicitly stated that it was not a prediction. Instead, the exercise served to highlight preparedness and response challenges that would likely arise in a very severe pandemic. We are not now predicting that the nCoV-2019 outbreak will kill 65 million people", says Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in a statement.

If you had found the right information rather than what you found on google who limits searches on these things you would find out who was behind it, nothing to do with predications rather that it seems a bit of a coincidence that a couple of months after the event we see coronavirus appear. Notice in the statement "We are not now predicting that the nCoV-2019 outbreak will kill 65 million people", so what did they predict? Global financial problems, shut downs of cities, travel bans, etc.?

In January 2018, China's first maximum security virology laboratory (biosecurity level 4) designed for the study of the world's most dangerous pathogens opened its doors — in Wuhan.Is it pure coincidence that Wuhan City is now the epicenter of this novel coronavirus infection?

I read this too, and they were testing biological warfare, it is all very suspicious, why is there not more people are talking about this?

 

Probably because it's fake news and not many people are being sucked into it.

Taken from Businessinsider:

Sen. Tom Cotton keeps airing a long-debunked theory that the deadly coronavirus is a Chinese biological weapon that was leaked from a government lab in Wuhan.

Taken from Foreign Affairs.com:

Within weeks of the pathogen’s appearance, social media lit up with suggestions that the virus was a biological weapon—either a Chinese one that had escaped from a laboratory in Wuhan or an American one inflicted on Wuhan.

Many Chinese seized on this notion and speculated that SARS was a genetic weapon developed by the United States to target them alone.

 

Of course Foreign Affairs would be debunking it, what I would expect anyway. We will never know the truth.

So make it up instead and look for conspiracy theories that support your distorted idealogy? That seems to be what gives some people here a little adrenlin rush and anticipation of doom.

Not making up anything, just what I read here and there from different sources, just food for thought and nothing to do with my "distorted idealogy". I do not get any adrenlin rushes from anything, I am calm person and am a very optimistic person. I just like to question everything because there is always two sides to every story sometimes even more and what we are told by the media is only a snippet.

 

Don't assume I'm only talking about you here Musicveg. There are plenty of other other people posting and reading here that susbscribe to conspiracy theory and "reds under the bed" idealogy. Of course you see two sides to everything but you appear to veer a bit to one side that supports conspiracy theory and spurious conjecture. Skeptism and seeking evidential information is much more healthy to a progressive society. Alternatively, live in fear and anxiety of what information you find on the net that merely drives your imagination to feel more fear and anxiety. Even though you call it curiosity.

 

I am not living in fear and anxiety, I am quite calm, have not even stocked up on anything, only have a few rolls of toilet paper lol.

 

That same lab was shown on google maps as being 8kms from the seafood market where all this is supposed to have started.

About two weeks later google maps showed it to have moved much further away. Interesting!

 

 

 

Interesting and part of a conspiracy theory. Try posting some facts.

Taken from Wikipedia

In January 2020, the BBC published an article about coronavirus misinformation, citing two 24 January articles from the The Washington Times which claimed the virus was part of a Chinese biological weapons program, based at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).[1][13] The Washington Post later published an article debunking the conspiracy theory, citing U.S. experts who explained why the Institute was not suitable for bioweapon research, that most countries had abandoned bioweapons as fruitless, and that there was no evidence that the virus was genetically engineered.[14]

Taken from Foreignpolicy.com:

The only basis for the claim is a quote from former Israeli intelligence officer Dany Shoham, who has expertise in biological warfare.

While Shoham never backed up the claim made in the story that the outbreak stemmed from a biological weapon, other outlets nevertheless picked up the idea and ran with it.

They may say they have abandoned bioweapon research but how are we really to know they are not still doing it?

Why don't you try to find out musicveg? You appear to be very motivated to find out. When you do, post it here.

Bioweapon research in China? I'm far more concerned about what the chemicals that have been produced in the US by Monsanto, Dow and Dupont. They have done far more damage to all living creatures in every part of the world and it continues unabated. Don't believe me? Look it up.

I agree about the chemicals and have kept up with what these evil companies are doing, they also publish counteractive information every time they are questioned.  I have been eating organic food for years and have a very chemical free life. And now that Monsanto has joined up with Bayer they are bigger and more dangerous, they already have an alternative to roundup which they expect to be banned and it is even more dangerous. The greed of money is amazing. All of these chemicals compromise the immune system and effect the DNA of all living things.

 

Finally something we can agree on.

Dear 20/20 take a trip to S.E.Asia & see what china is doing in Cambodia,Loas etc you will change your mind

What are they doing? Buying up? All over the world they are buying land, investing and setting up house.

Under no circumstances are the Chinese to be trusted, in anything. They are interested only in China, and nobody else.

Of course China is primariy interested in China. Most countries are primarily intersted in their own country. Including Australia. Any other countries you distrust or just China?

So what is new. Foreign navies have been lurking around our coasts for decades (probably since 1788 when LaPerouse encountered the First Fleet at Botany Bay). This is why our maritime reconniscence squadrons patrol our seas. It used to be the Soviets but now the Chinese have shown interest. Nothing we can do about it if they stay in international waters.

The fear of the yellow peril has been around for a couple of centuries and and only slightly diminished with the older generations.

“Yellow peril” is a phrase that originated in the 19th century with immigration of Chinese and Japanese labourers to the United States in response to the gold rush. 

“Yellow” refers to the skin colour of east Asians. “Peril” refers to the perceived threat that potential expansion of Asianpopulations would overpower Western culture.

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