Queensland trying to ban rain from forecasts

Those wacky banana-benders are at it again. Queensland’s tourism industry is worried about the impact weather forecasting is having on people wanting to travel to the ‘Sunshine State’ and wants to ban the word rain from weather forecasts.

The Queensland Tourism Industry Council (QTIC) thinks bad weather forecasts are discouraging day-trippers and impacting their tourism negatively, going as far as requesting the Bureau of Meteorology to be more lenient in its reporting.

According to news.com.au, QTIC’s CEO Daniel Gschwind said the current language used to forecast weather should be changed, citing examples such as “partly cloudy” and “chance of rain”, which he’d like switched to “mostly sunny” and “likely sunshine”.

Some other examples included swapping “showers” and “overcast” to “cooling down rain (after a hot day)” and “cool day”.

What do you think? Should the weather report be more positive or should it concentrate on being more accurate?

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BOM forecasts are about as accurate as modern technology allows. Those complaining about forecast accuracy just have no idea about the complexity of weather and the computational power needed to give us an expectation of the weather ahead. Sadly, many public figures are scientifically illiterate, and for the tourism people to push for fake forecasts is absurd. There is a difference, probably set down in international standards, between mostly sunny, and the chance of a shower. This is teetering toward Trump-like science denial: the next thing will be wanting the BOM to curtail forecasts altogether. Because of our abysmal failure to contain climate change, extremes will increase, and there unfortunately will be more unattractive news on the weather front. 

I live in Cairns and every year around October - November the weather forcacacter predict 5-6 Cyclone are going to hit and even now when there is alow 100 k of the coast its maybe a cyclone if forming. Of course it is giong to turn people from coming

PS the last cyclone was 2000

If the reef keeps going the way it is no one will have a reason to go to QLD, we have much better beaches here in NSW AND no Croc and stingers to worry about.

Dave, Cyclone Larry hit the Cairns area in March 2006, and was followed by Cyclone Yasi in 2011. Cyclone Marcia also devastated Rockhampton in 2013, and then there was Cyclone Debbie in March last year. All in FNQ! I remember because I am a retired Loss Adjuster, and worked up there after all the damage they caused.

 

No problem.

Tim Flannery assured us there would be very little rain anymore, just before the floods occurred...lol, and even the dams wouldn't fill up.   That was a few years ago now.   He must have done a rain dance.

I question Tim Flannery with quite a lot of his statements seems like a nice enough bloke but sure has been proved wrong on many occasions

Darcie, when did this person claim no more rain, what were his justifying figues? what, None?

when did the floods occur? what year?

Are the dams full now?

I suspect you are doing a fact dance, shame on you.

By using unsubstantiated Assertions, unrelated conclusions with vagueness, refusal to prove, and mockery of others, you are sounding like a climate denier.

God bless all who sail therein, nobody else will as our climate measurably fails, History will curse all of that ilke.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=wM_C_-2MGWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IunCVcIF0ZY

This was a couple of years before there were those awful floods in Q'land, visions of which I will never forget.

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In 2005, Flannery predicted Sydney's dams could be dry in as little as two years because global warming was drying up the rains, leaving the city "facing extreme difficulties with water".

Check Sydney's dam levels today: 73 per cent..

Feb 2011

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In 2008, Flannery said: "The water problem is so severe for Adelaide that it may run out of water by early 2009."

Check Adelaide's water storage levels today: 77 per cent.(2011)

In 2007, Flannery predicted cities such as Brisbane would never again have dam-filling rains, as global warming had caused "a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas" and made the soil too hot, "so even the rain that falls isn't actually going to fill our dams and river systems ... ".

Check the Murray-Darling system today: in flood. Check Brisbane's dam levels: 100 per cent full.

 

 

 Tim Flannery:"Even the rain that falls isn't going to fill our rivers and dams.    2007:

Darcie, because your original statements were so vague and not dated, not substantiated, your new statements have no meaning, - btw, it is against Internet etiquette to provide a link as an answer, - as a reference to an answer, yes, but you have to state the answer exactly yourself, eg. "I am the new world emperor, you must give me one million dollars right now"  see "link".

If you are the New world empoer, kindly destroy me right now as I refuse to bow to such bullshit.

what, 20 mins have passed and I am still here? sorry I could not be bothered to follow your no doubt stupid link as you could not summarise it your self. f/0ff

Who made you so high and mighty. Darcie makes statements, you have a go at him for not backing it up, he then backs it up, and you can't handle the truth. You also remind him about internet etiquette, and then, somewhat hypocritically, proceed to swear in your response. We don't need bitter and twisted people like you on YLC, so take your own advice! Take your hat off to wipe the egg off your face as well!!!!

Thanks Dobbo 1.

I"m fully aware of internet protocol, but I also know if I posted the source , there would be a lot of ignorant rubbish posted in response.    The other thing, all anyone has to do is search Tim Flannery predictions', and bingo!

"Who is that person? he asks.    Try Google .

 

Too many deletions YLC, people will  notice.

TIM Flannery has just been hired by the Gillard Governmentas a Global Warming Activist

He also said that the seaweed farms in Korea were wonderful -- too bad they are all polluted with radioactive runoff from Fukushima -- darn shame as seaweed is very good for you

 

The Daily Telegraph can reveal Tim Flannery, the controversial environmentalist owns a large, low-lying waterfront home on the Hawkesbury River, a remote getaway which only has water access.

The Coba Point home is jointly owned by Professor Flannery and his wife Alexandra Szalay, who bought it in 2003-- a buy seemingly at odds with his gloomy predictions. The home remains mortgaged to the ANZ bank.

According to his Coba Point neighbours, Professor Flannery's home is the largest property on the remote point and is a only few steps from the water.

"Yes, it is waterfront and his would be one of the biggest on the point and his house is probably set back about four or five metres from the water," neighbour David told 2GB's Ray Hadley yesterday.

"All of the properties are waterfront."

The neighbour said Professor Flannery runs a two-stroke outboard motor boat.

The man who leads the Gillard government's Climate Change Commission also owns a one-third share in a property at Berowra Heights.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/prof-tim-flannerys-waterside-getaway/news-story/f78bdfc72ee5a1488116215e2b26eb88?sv=56fbbb1f36ebdda9d6d065322f799093

 

Lovely spot but sure is going against his predictions

SO, PLAN B you have believed Dobbo who says any link must be followed, even though you can't summarise the argument, - what did his last slave die of? - stupidity from overwork?

No, you don't pay me, you can not insist that I follow your links because you have to convince me, and everyone else, that your argument is correct, with spades. Otherwise bye bye, you are consigned to the universe of meaningless assertions, along with the Oz liberal party, the Amercan Republican Party and dubious fuckwits wherever.

 

 

 

 

Sorry Lookfar,   I must have missed something, as I do not understand your post?

I'm lost too PlanB, particularly when it was Darcie who posted links to support an argument ... not you.

Meanwhile regarding the topic: Queensland trying to ban rain from forecasts

Unfortunately the QTIC campaign seems to be working rather too well and the rain has forsaken my place in SEQ, presumably to move to friendlier states.

Lawn is looking dead as a doornail.

No blame No pain to various posters,  the Bom has to constrain its publication of Cyclones to 3 days, as it is under the control of the Rich, alas, if you want better approach such groups as OCC, as I have suggested, - even Jenny Woodward sometimes repeats their analysis vebatim or close.

I thought the BOM did a 5-day Tropical Cyclone Forecast Track Map as available in MetEye. No cyclones at the moment to attach an image of same, so I’ve included the BOM link below.

http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/

Just checked out OCC. Interesting site, self-described on their site as a group of four weather enthusiasts whose major goal is to travel around Australia in order to document Tropical cyclone impacts and share that with the public.

Wonder where they source their data from. Just curious.

Same here RnR haven't had rain for many months

OCC BUY their data, and all their equipment to land on the beach as the cyclone arrives etc, but there is so much more info available, some of it free from the World Community, some they just crouch on the beach hoping to live.

No need to follow the old Parilamentairains, look at what is Happening,

Wind Turbines are however, imho a different issue, they directly develop the Australian economy, as does a major Dam or Highway, so personal issues need to take a slightly lower tack.

To discuss the efficiency of wind turbines is not directly answering the article, but I think it is indirectly very important, - particularly because wind turbines are a major player and have recently increased their effectiveness,- in the last three years, prices of wind turbines have come down 36%, - dollars per megawatt of capacity installed, but that is not even half the story, wind turbines are much larger, 8 megawatts and bigger, the greater size has two big results, - in earlier days, wind turbines had say a 60 metre tower, 50 metre blades, now they are 120/160/240 metre towers, -  each 1 metre in height increases the power 1%, compounded; Blades are 80 metres long, +,   each 10% increase in swept area doubles the power, any of you putting in pipe for irrigation will have come across those figures, a 2 megawatt turbine produces much more than 2 of 1 megawatt turbines, an 8 megawatt wind turbine produces more than 4 times a 4 megawatt turbine, these developments have effectively changed the whole game, as anybody watching the collapse of the coal industry in America and the UK will know, and storage is developing at an amazing rate. 

 Australia is totally blessed with Wind and Solar, ( also Tide, Wave and Geothermal Power, ) we really do have, with Wind Power, the opportunity to green our deserts, which Coal never provided, and now we really need it, - think of the very real statistics showing a definite ‘uptick’ in suicides every strong drought, in the Rural community, consider that even the AEMC, the Australian Electricity Regulator, grudgingly admits that Solar and Wind will lower electricity prices, so those Beautiful Graceful machines, their blades Wings of Birds, slowly revolving on your horizon, are helping all of us, and their size needs an explanation, the bigger they are, the lower the tip speed needs to be or it would exceed the speed of sound, so the slower they rotate.

As for low frequency vibration, Waves are one source, but people love living on the beach, whales speak in it, and the huge rocks under the earth grinding against each other produce it all the time and always have, who worries?  - just propaganda by the Coal lobbies!

Perhaps most significant, Wind Turbines produce very little of that low frequency noise, but Air Conditioners produce Heaps (CSIRO South Australia report).

Oh no - another tree hugger

Stop subsidies for so called Clean Energy 

Costing the taxpayer billions

Wind turbines are a blight on the landscape and killing birds by the millions  

Raphael, I would be a so-called tree hugger -- ( I really care about the environment) but I agree that the wind turbines are blight and far too expensive to make and run and also do too much damage to the Birds etc

I have air Con that makes no noise --

I really do not know the total answer but I am and  always have been a  ( tree hugger) and we need more of them thats why the planet is in such a mess because there are too many that do not care a darn

Both of you need to do some research, Wind Turbines are the cheapest form of electricity, no harm to the environment, turn very slowly so birds easily fly around them, all parts recyclable, who has been telling you lies?

I look at them, graceful, gentle, no noise, no fuss, just generating the electricity we all need, then I look at a coal mine/power station, - looks like a nuclear bomb, all is devastation, black dust, noise, people getting sick, ugly ugly ugly.

Faugh!

Image result for wind turbine birds killedImage result for wind turbine birds killed

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Suze, you and Abby must get your pictures from the same source? HAHAHA

https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/the_meeting_place/post/anti-wind-lobby?page=1

There have been people that had to move out of their homes because of the type of sound they make apparently it can affect some people really bad and also cows

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