Oh well, that's a shame, maybe a new face could help them start a new chapter in the Labor Party, old faces are a reminder of what happened before.  Just heard that the senate isn't looking good for Labor although counting is a long way off being finished.

Yes, I think Jim Chalmers would be a fresh start for a Labor. Then for deputy a woman so Claire O’Neill and treasurer could be Andrew Leigh. All are highly qualified 

Paddington,

I'd put Claire O'neill as leader - best by far for the long term and Jim as Treasurer. 

Since Tanya Plibersek is too busy for leadership she should not be pressed into the demanding deputy job - maybe she could have an administrative role elsewhere.

They need someone conscientious and conservative Labor for the deputy job.  Jim cannot be deputy because he would be bucking for the top job.

I wouldn't entertain the thought of Andrew Leigh in anything but committee membership. 

LJ Ms Plebersek should be helped to the cheap seats on the back bench along with Ms Wong. They were part of the problem and theirn actions and comments both during and after the election show they cannot be part of the solution.

KSS - They should not be part of the 'future'. They are both capital 'G', gender based appointments.

The real situation should be that opposition Partys do not 'automatically oppose'.

Government of our Country should progress on negotiation and discussion between Partys upon matters. Not simply upon 'yes' or 'no', or 'left' or 'right'.

Examples are the degree that franking credits or global warming could be addressed. Not simply a yes or no. Franking Credit for example is the refund of Company Tax to pensioners, self funded retirees or anyone for that matter. I am a self funded retiree and recieve no Franking Credit. I pay Company level tax on my dividend returns. 

But hey, what we need is 'balance'. Not right or left extremes in ANY matters.

And Paddo why 'a woman'. That is a bad and unjustifiable start upon which to base 'selction criteria'.

One wonders why Sales and ors have not made that observation.

Master Turnbull is too far left even for the left faction! Besides he lives in Singapore feathering his nest from there. I doubt he would return even for the plum job of deputy sherrif to his father's sherrif, even with the promise of a matching harbourside mansion.

LJ, - "Whatever happened to the urgency of affirmative action for women".

Well, Affirmative action is merely a synonym for 'discrimination'. And it presently continues very strongly in favour of women. In fact the discrimination in favour of women is culturally embedded. And it is merely a weapon.

I am an older male and feel culturally alienated by the misguise of 'affirmative action'. Affirmative action is a lethal means of enuring one part of Society achieves unbelievable advantage over the other. All women are spportive of it, and prepared to use it, be it in obtaining employment or employment advancement over any male, division of financial assets, Family Court Legislation and outcomes, or simply revenge and or hatred. Men collectively have never had that character obsession to impart upon women.

If you wish to extend that premise to the aspect of male respect towards women, well can I suggest that the respect you recieve is your responsibility through your own character. A mirror image of that which you dish out under some protected idealism, to which no balanced opinion can be considered. In fact censorship applies.  

Sorry, but the Labour Party is in NZ or the UK. The fact that you cannot spell the name of the Australian Labor Party correctly shows that your remarks can be taken cum granis salis.

Knows-a-lot maybe knows too much but still not enough to press the reply button only once!

Well that is it Goodbye Labour again a big big defeat in 3 years again ..... for sure because we will continue with the same rubbish and nothing better for us the AU voters but for  sure more for the fat politicians and the Libs's will give more and more to the rich so .... mate we are totally STUFFED .... Time to go out again and enjoy the good life overseas … I was hoping for a change in government for the better but was wrong

Bloody hell, it's the Labor Party, people - not "Labour".

:) A Yank to Thank.

Blame King O’Malley, the influential pollie of the time who claimed to be born in Quebec, Canada but was most likely born in Kansas, US. O'Malley was a very visible figure in Australian public life during the early years of Federation. He is particularly remembered for his role in the establishment of the Commonwealth Bank, the selection of Canberra as the national capital, and taking the 'U' out of the name of the Australian Labour Party.

O'Malley was a spelling reform enthusiast and persuaded the party that "Labor" was a more "modern" spelling than "Labour". Although the American spelling has still not become established in Australia, the Labor Party has preserved the spelling.

That's it, Labor people focussing on the 'abc', rather than the matter at hand.

Read again to identify 'abc' duplicity.

Thanks.

No - Nyet

Why not a leader from the group pf alphabet people - LGBTIX etc - that would fit in with the progressive agenda that lot is peddling

the 'alphabet people' are often 'greens' - because they see themselves as 'alternatives' so any there are far left.

Plibersek, Wong and the Greens Sarah Hanson Young all need to find a job elsewhere.  I am all for promoting women -ON MERIT - providing they can fill the demands of the role well.  These 3 in particular take money under false pretenses - tantamount to stealing as far as I am concerned.

Penny Wong has an Arts Degree for goodness sake and they wanted to promote her to the heaad of finance for goodness sake - no wonder they spent all the surplus last time!!  They have no idea how to balance a budget let alone plan for the future financial stability of thi great country of ours.  I am sick and tired of these people in parliament who would never cut it in the real world.  Thanks for lettign me have a rant - I feel a bit better now -lol!

Scomo - Albo I find very good. Scotty - Tony even better, good Aussie names. No Wong, Plibersek!!

British and American spelling — Oxford Dictionaries

The differences: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/spelling/british-and-spelling

Why does Australia use British spelling conventions?

As in most English-speaking countries, there is no official governmental regulator or overseer of normative spelling and grammar. The Macquarie Dictionary is used by some universities and some other organisations as a standard for Australian English spelling. The Style Manual: For Authors, Editors and Printers, the Cambridge Guide to Australian English Usage and the Australian Guide to Legal Citation are prominent style guides.

Australian spelling is closer to British than American spelling. As with British spelling, the u is retained in words such as colour, honour, labour and favour. While the Macquarie Dictionary lists the -our ending and follows it with the -or ending as an acceptable variant, the latter is rarely found in actual use today. Australian print media, including digital media, today strongly favour -our endings. Source.

So funny ... don't know where that leaves us in the opposition's proposed choice of leader ... apparently most of the nation can't pronounce Albo's surname correctly anyway LOL.

Anthony Albanese reveals the correct way to pronounce his surname.

As some dial-in wag on radio said yesterday:

"Scomo, Albo ... how Orstralya is that?"

So called spelling modernisation often doesn't take account of pronunciation. Even Americans don't spell "white" as "wite"  Pronunciation of each may differ reasonably subtly but it is still different. Although they waver a bit many Americans do spell "night" as "nite". That may be closer to the pronouced sound but it doesn't quite do it justice.

Seems to me that most of the other modernising changes are pretty similar, close but not quite as good a representation of the sounds we intend. This is probably because the alphabet has to work pretty hard to approximate all the sounds now particular to this language.

"Zed" as "Zee." There is not much you can say about that one. If others want to say it that way that is their prerogative.

Please save us from Ms Keneally. She was hopeless in NSW and entirely under the influence of people who ended up in jail!