I wonder how Turnbull or anyone would feel IF they had a Child that had developed Autism after the vaccination -- its not that I am against Vac' but they are a lot different to what we gave to out Kids.  I know of 3 young families that this happened to very soon after the Vaccinations, one was twins it happened to.

It seems to be a walk in minefields with this situation, however, look at the dangers of our children walking to school or the park. The threats that are out there these days are many.

Do seniors need to have this vaccine?

I have had the Pneumonia Vaccine and you only have to have 2  -- no more

Oh!   so I have to have another one then.

How far apart do they give them PlanB?

We have yet to have our flu shot, they have not been available for seniors till about ten days ago in Perth.

Well I had 2 Ann I had the last one in 2008,  I would ask the Dr as they might have changed since then -- I THINK mine were 12 months apart but do check as things may well have changed -- as they do

Yes Ann I am sure they are too keen to give too many shots at once and also too many types in one shot these days

Hi Ann,   I don't want to ever get the flu shots. My husband was talked into it by his doctor a few years ago and my husband suffered with terrible coughing and fevers, which lasted a couple of weeks. I also read that President Trump said he would never get the flu shots as they contain formaldehyde and mercury in them. Brother- in- law could not get the shots either as he was highly allergic to eggs. 

What a recipe for killing a virus.......wonder more people refuse it.

I spoke to my GP about this as number one son says the same, but the GP says that people that do get a cold after having it must already have sucummed to the virus prior to the injection.  Now who do I believe?  

Hospitals throughout Australia offer free Flu Vaccines and hospital staff are happily do have a variety of vaccinations to protect themselves from viruses brought into the hospitals by sick unvaccinated patients. Do you really think knowing intelligent people would have them if they thought they would be put at risk?

Anti-vaxxers have the deaths of children and also some elderly on their heads through their sheer ignorance and scare tactics. Your GPS who are obviously more medically qualified than you would not be recommending vaccinations if something in your medical history suggested it would not be in your best interest.

You are all old enough to remember Polio outbreaks, measles and German measle outbreaks, we don't have them anymore thanks to vaccinations. Be thankful there are researchers and scientists whose efforts have provided means to end those multiple tragedies that occurred prior to the development of vaccines.

Vivity why are you angry at us?

Ann you really can't see how your comments might influence people against having vaccinations ?

You implied your mother passed away after having the Pneumonia Vaccine and your husband was made Ill by the Flu Vaccine. You may not realise the affect you may have on some who need those vaccines. 

The Flu and Pneumonia Vaccination alone have saved many elderly from ending up needlessly in hospital and many elderly do read this even if they don't post. 

Vivity we shall have to agree not to agree on this one.

I preface my comment in that  I am an adult so can make my own decisions   

I fully support Viv . Who has s medical background ,

I suffer from CLL which means I have a lowered immune system ,

if I did not follow my Doctors advise on being innoculated with all available vaccines I would not be here.

Ann, not for a minute promoting people should not get the vaccine.

But I have never had one, never had the flu. am fit and healthy and hope to remain that way for a long time, when my circumstances change and I become infirm and riddled with ailments, I may reconsider.

Additionally any person with any medical knowledge will tell you that older people with weaker immune systems often have a lower protective immune response after flu vaccination compared to younger, healthier people. This can result in lower vaccine effectiveness in these people.

I strongly advocate health care workers have it especially if they look after babies and the elderly.

Hi Reagan,  I have three auto immune issues and as such a weak immune system and have always had the flu injections. As a child in the UK we had various injections also. Never had one for polio though.

My immune system has been weak since I was about 31.  It has been like walking on egg shells.   I have a very limited diet which has to be watched.  It has not been an easy joining.  Of my two sons the younger has diabetes.

What I object to is having works put into my mouth.  But I will not be drawn into any argument.           End of story as far as I am concerned.

Yes HOLA that the problem with these vaccinations these days they do have all this deadly stuff --- formaldehyde and mercury in them ---- for preservation -- and there are a lot of people that ca not handle it.

I am certainly not AGAINST vaccinations if they are as they used to be

PB Mercury is only used in multi dose containers and not in single dose ampoules so highly unlikely to be a problem for people who get it on a script.

Formaldehyde is present in the human body naturally and the amount in comparison in a vaccine is minute.

Facts and tables on the dosages are  outlined in the following article

 
https://thoughtscapism.com/2015/09/16/should-you-worry-about-formaldehyde-in-vaccines/

THanks Vivity, but there are also Mercury in them too and when I have had the odd Flu Vac' --- not for quite a few years now I was always given it from the multi dose bottle at the surgery

Toot - That picture tells a story of how the young man wanted to desperately die. I heard a story once about a young lady who saw no use in living. She took some tablets and waited on a rail bridge for the train to come. She jumped, but was not killed. Both her legs had to be amputated. When she was able, after much counselling and believing she was put on earth for a special purpose, she now spends her time counselling other young people who feel life is not worth living. What a special young lady she is. 

Toot since the 1980s money for Mental Health has been cut back by most Governments in the Western World, here in Perth there are a lot of the time no beds for new urgent mental health patients they end upon open wards in stead, or back out on the streets. I agree far more money needs to be put into mental health rather than like recently even more cutbacks.

Just thinking about that young man on the bridge, he's suddenly overwhelmed with people he doesn't know, showering him with love and affection, it's seems an ironic contrast to where's his dark mind has recently come from.

About time too as it seems to help so many,  also surely it can not be any more dangerous than some of the drugs the BIG PHARMA hand out

Ann when it is used on Animals also Children AND gives improvement then it HAS to be doing something as they can not know about the placebo effect, do you agree?

Hi Plan B.

[second time I have written this, the page fell out!]

I have no problems with the use of this as long as the GPs are up to date with its use.  I have personally had issues with things and diagnosis with GPs and specialists.

Latest one was the GP wrote his recommendation down for something to take for my joints.....I turned to him and said 'they are high in histamines and sulfites'  with that he threw the paper in the bin.

Silica is better for my joints than all these cupsules they are mass producing.

I have been diagnosed with a heart murmur, only to be told 8 years later there was nothing wrong with my heart!

I have been diagnosed with a skin infection, a year later the specialist was proven wrong.

The trouble with these errors is the products the GPs or specialists tell the patient to take and they then give the body another issue!

Ann,  good on you for keeping up with things too many just say yes sir to the Drs and never question ever -- "the Dr knows best" well they darn well do not.

Even the Chemists say oh that would be very rare to happen -- absolute rubbish  -- I know of quite a few people that have reactions to medication that Drs and Chemist say is  "RARE"  get a print from the Chemist AND then also look it all up for yourselves -- can not be too careful.

Plan B, we were in the UK, Yorkshire from Jan 2000 to 2003 and I needed to have a root canal.  dentist sent me to a specialist surgeon [due to the heart murmor!] he sent me off to the cardiologist when I told him about the heart murmor to make sure I did have that issue as he said he had another patient that had the exact same thing!

As I came back clear I was also asked about family history.  I mentioned my late grandmother dieing having left the dentist after a tooth extraction.  Oh he said that is one in 5 million!   I came back to our home and phoned my late mum here in Perth and told her what was going on.  She looked up the records and sure enough my late grandmother was the 1 in 5 million!  So had to go back and tell the specialist surgeon the news!  

This is why it is so important to know our family health history I feel.

THats scary Ann as my Son has to have a tooth removed and they said they won't do it till they talk to the Cardiologist -- -- whom they have been trying to contact and have not been able to because Son was a public patient -- and they have not been able to find the documents, great care we get hey! NOT

Very important Ann to know

Plan B in my case the heart was miss diagnosed, but the problem that my late grandmother had was an artery that was around the lower jaw, but her roots of her teeth were entangled around the artery.  Pulled the tooth out and she was hemorhraging in the car home.  [the one in 5 million and she had to have had it]

When I heard the news I was so upset, Dad told me at the kitchen table aged 8.

This was in 1952!  They stopped at a traffic light and the lady in the car next to them was a nurse and realized what was happening and told my grandfather to drive straight to the hospital, but they could not stop the flow of blood and she passed away.

Fascinating to read about Brocky thank you for posting it.

Excellent information Ann, thank you!

Hi Micha.

For years I only ate a bit of toast and or some cereal for breakfast.

Then l thought I should visit a good dietitian, found one locally that has a Masters.

Cut a long story short she has both husband and I on a cooked breakfast, I always tried to stay away from eggs, didn't think they were too good for us. she also said we should be having mushrooms several times a week, apparently they have Vit B in. She did not say which vit B.  But we like them and I cook a breakfast about four times a week now.

As I have a slow Thyroid I can see the benefits of eating eggs now.

We also make our own fresh fruit salad and although it is fiddly to make, we do enjoy it either for breakfast, lunch or dinner!

Researching the information that could affect my IBS some years back, probably a decade ago now when I think about it.  I did find that raw or undercooked eggs kills of the Biotin in the body!   Not that I ate raw white of egg, but a lot of guys use the white of egg for protein.    

A decade ago Biotin was hardly heard of, but now it is all over the web.

Thanks for posting that Ann BUT they sure have played it down -- the whole Pacific Ocean is contaminated and Fukushima has been pouring millions upon millions of gallons into it since 2011 and continues to do so -- the tap water in Tokyo is radiated as is the ground and they continue to burn all their gear they use every day when they work near there -- which goes up to the atmosphere -- Arnie Gunderson -- he is a Nuclear Scienist --- says it is dealy and has spead the world wide along with Chernobyl but even though Chernobyl was bad Fukushima is the worse nuclear accident ever on earth --- also the radiation Rods are nowhere to be seen and they think they may have melted through into the earth -- that would mean all ground water is radiated -- but we are STILL importing seafood from there and allowing the Japanese Government to   -- say it is OK --- please Google  and read up on this we are being told NOTHING.   They are also serving Fukushima food as Airline meals --

Yes I am with you Plan B.  I have read reports.

What is frightening to me is what happens when it meets into the core of the planet with molten lava?

Often wondered why it was called Coke

Plan B that is why so many people are addictive to the drink.

It is a terrible drink for hot climates as it is full of sugar.  Never drunk it thank goodness.

I have had maybe 2 glasses in my lifetime - never have been a soft drink person,  always loved my milkshakes, don't have them now though,  I drink water -- out of my tap -- have a cup of coffee sometimes of a morning -- never have been a tea drinker if I have a drink when I am out it is either water or one of those fresh fruit drinks -- with NO ice.

I know lots that drank dozens of large bottles through the week though -- and some that think drinking the diet coke is good -- got news fro them.

Oh Coke is excellent for dentists Plan B!  LOL rots the teeth like nobodys business.

I drink about 4 - 5 cups of weak black decaff tea a day and water.  I should drink moe fruit juice, but I don't when the weather cools off.

I cannot say I have ever enjoyed coffee, I stopped drinking coffee about 30 years ago, and feel much better for it.

Sometimes if I am off colour I will have a glass of Sprite  I enjoy Sprite in Orange and Manjo Juice!  But that is usually on a very hot day.  Reminds me I have Sprite in the fridge that needs using up.

Have you seen the photos of what Coke does to some things?  Even cleaning the toilet pan!  LOL

http://www.reshareable.tv/25-practical-uses-coca-cola.html

My Mum was a big tea drinker so is my Son but I have never liked it at all,  I only have fruit juice grown here in Aussie so only have it in season.

Chocolate is my addiction and ice cream -- love it Oh and Mango Weis bars