AstraZeneca

Firstly, let me say that I have had the AstraZeneca vaccine, albeit with extreme reluctance.

It is fact that the AstraZeneca vaccine does not give you the same level of immunity as other vaccines, but it is the only vaccine we are allowed to have.  If that isn't age discrimination I don't know what is.  We are already in a vulnerable age group and this vulnerability is being compounded by not having any choice of vaccine.

We have relatives and friends in England, Europe and America, so like to keep up with all the international news.  Everyone abroad is amazed that we are only allowed to have the one vaccine.

At the moment we are dealing with the Delta variant.  The Beta variant, that started in South Africa, has now spread to Europe and it is only a matter of time before it reaches the UK and ultimately Australia.  We are all aware of how each new strain travels the world.

The AstraZeneca vaccine is not effective against this Beta strain.  AstraZeneca are aware of this and have been working, since October last year, on a booster shot to make the vaccine effective against this variant.  If the Beta variant arrives here before the AstraZeneca vaccine has been improved then we will all be "sitting ducks" as we do not have other vaccines.

A friend, and one relative in the UK, received the AstraZeneca vaccine, before it was associated with causing blood clots.  They have both now been told that they must have another vaccine, of a completely different type, so that when the Beta variant hits they will have some immunity.

Whatever your political persuasion it seems to me that in the middle of a global pandemic, a PM that doesn't order every single type of vaccine available, and in sufficient quantitities to vaccinate every single Australian, is either grossly incompetent and or grossly stupid!

 

 

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Let me reiterate, I have been vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Sophie, you make the point regarding an unvaccinated person taking up an ICU bed, and to a certain extent I agree.  However, I would be equally as angry if a bed was taken up by an injured drunk driver, or someone with a drug overdose.

I truly believe that the anti-vaxxers are a very small minority.  Being anti AstraZeneca is not the same as being an anti-vaxxer.

Australia has such a low vaccination rate because of initial supply shortages and vaccine rollout mismanagement.  There are still very large numbers of people trying to book appointments to get vaccinated, with some even prepared to queue, sometimes for hours, just to get vaccinated.

 

Let me reiterate, I have been vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Sophie, you make the point regarding an unvaccinated person taking up an ICU bed, and to a certain extent I agree.  However, I would be equally as angry if a bed was taken up by an injured drunk driver, or someone with a drug overdose.

I truly believe that the anti-vaxxers are a very small minority.  Being anti AstraZeneca is not the same as being an anti-vaxxer.

Australia has such a low vaccination rate because of initial supply shortages and vaccine rollout mismanagement.  There are still very large numbers of people trying to book appointments to get vaccinated, with some even prepared to queue, sometimes for hours, just to get vaccinated.

 

Firstly, let me say, despite your trepidation, you went ahead and had the vaccination available to you, Upsadaisy. I truly respect that.

I agree with a lot of what you have written, however, I cannot equate a "drunk driver" or someone with a "drug overdose" to someone getting the virus when we are in the middle of a pandemic and that person has the potential of bringing down an entire town or State, who was not vaccinated.

With ALL the vaccines having occasional serious side effects AZ is still my preferred vaccine.

You have a range of side effects to "chose" from the various vaccines - blood clots, myocarditis, pericarditis, Guillain-Barré syndrome; and probably others.

This virus is mutating so rapidly that what we say today will probably be obsolete far too soon.

With ALL the vaccines having occasional serious side effects AZ is still my preferred vaccine.

You have a range of side effects to "chose" from the various vaccines - blood clots, myocarditis, pericarditis, Guillain-Barré syndrome; and probably others.

This virus is mutating so rapidly that what we say today will probably be obsolete far too soon.

Fair point Sophie.

Hubby had his second jab yesterday and is fine, eats like a horse!

Anyone with an iota of sense will get whatever vaccine is available to them. 

To Incognito - "It is a legal right of all Australians to have their medical privacy protected (passport will make that a damn joke, bad enough with the QR), and secondly, I believe all individuals have the right to do their own research, consult their own doctor, and come to their own conclusions before deciding whether or not to get any injection." (plus be able to choose what poison they want in their body).

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Sadly, there is now news that no matter what vaccine you have or can choose to have, all are not effective against the Delta Strain. Reports are saying The Delta Strain just basically over rides it. So as many rejoice in the fact they got their 2nd jab, roll ya sleeves up again because its likely you are going to need a 3rd. Hang on long enough - there could be a 4th.

I would reconsider a vaccine ONLY when they have actually invented one that works. I will not be a guinea pig ora lab rat, just because the Government keeps saying to get the jab. WTF for? this isn't working against the most serious of strains. We need an indepth study to find what the base line or common denominator is with all variants (and there has to be one), then attack that with a specifically made vaccine - then we will win this war.

An unverified rumour has this virus and all its variants being stopped dead in its tracks with a natural product. But aw c'mon, can't use a natural product because big business can't make money on it. They can only make money on something they design themselves not what is already in nature.

"So as many rejoice in the fact they got their 2nd jab, roll ya sleeves up again because its likely you are going to need a 3rd. Hang on long enough - there could be a 4th." Beemee

More nonsense. How does that differ from having the flu vac EVERY YEAR! Looks like your commonsense has gone out of the window!

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/third-pfizer-vaccine-jab-likely-needed-within-a-year/ar-BB1fHjqK

Read it yourself. The CEO of Pfizer said its very likely. But then you like others, probably wont bother reading it. Can't have anyone saying anything against the vaccines because I have had it or them, and I don't want to be told to stick my head between my legs and kiss my arse goodbye.. Once it has been proven to be said, I haven't had one come back to say "You're right it was posted on that site" No, it all of a sudden goes very quiet not a single peep of affirmation out of anyone.

If they can't get the vaccines right the first time, then go for a second, now a third? What makes anyone believe #3 will work against the Delta Variant when the other two haven't?

Yes Beemee, people are just accepting what the media is saying, but you only have to see what is happening overseas and people are still being hospitalized vaccinated or not. All this while natural immunity was already happening until they suddenly "discover" a new variant, all virus mutate constantly! Also what is really sad is many of the doctors overseas who have been successfully treating people with different medicines etc. are being suppressed, they are saving lives and more people could have been saved. But they are told to go home until they start to turn blue and then it is usually too late.

Yep we all just had to wait for a vaccine and now they will have yearly boosters, like the flu because that too mutates all the time.

Yeah incognito, its bad. There was a doctor in India (I think) who was pushing for Ivermetic to stop the virus, but honestly, a pour on cattle dip??? Damn questionable. Anyway she was really hauled over the coals and told to shutup or get de-registered as a physician.

Even if there was a magical cure out there, it would be buried under a lot of lies so the big Pharma could make their millions/billions.

And as for the Government - don't get me started on that lying bunch. Do you remember hearing about the Olympics where they said there were to be so many youth workers etc to look after our Olympians.

Here's what was said and who Quote "“I wanna stress to the mums and dads, your children will be well looked after inside
when they arrive. They will be literally ushered. We’ll have nurses, we’ll have some of
the Youth Command, we’ll have some of the young police from some of the various
operations police there to guide them through as to where they go. They will be
looked after every moment inside the stadium, and they will be well cared for. So
mums and dads feel secure. We’ve got about 24,000 students we’re aiming to get
through next week. The messages will come out this week, and the opportunity is
there that really you have got to take it, grasp it with both hands. I know that if you
talk to any of our Olympians, they’ll tell you that you just have to ‘grasp opportunity’,
and this is an opportunity, so don’t waste it.”
-  Brad Hazzard MP – NSW Health Minister

Now try for a FOI on this - good luck as it doesn't exidt.

More lies too "The science of the PCR tests and the Emergency Vaccines is being withheld from you by Australian politicians, bureaucrats, your Health Departments and officials, the media and more..and this was planned and was written about…..in the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and Defence document titled ‘The New International Economic Order; Implications for Australia’ dated 19 Feb 1980.

https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2020B00123

This is where the Govt changed the rules in order to have the defence assist them is cover ups or force the public to do as they wish. We are truly losing all our freedoms.

I really do hope and pray there is someone out there who makes a major breakthrough on a vaccine that actually works, so all will be safe.

Grand Mufti gets vaccinatedwebs_GrandMuftiVax_1808The Grand Mufti of Australia, Dr Mohammed, received his COVID-19 vaccination this week.(
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The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammed, has released a video of his COVID-19 vaccination.

Dr Mohammed said in the video, posted on YouTube, that he hopes all people in the Muslim community see how rumours about the doses not being halal are false.

"I have no issues with the vaccine," he said in the short clip.

"It is one of the scientific breakthroughs and one of Allah's gifts."

Dr Muhammed and other leading figures in the Muslim community have received their jab as the vaccination efforts for Sydney's western and south-western suburbs continues.

 

 

Another illegal church gathering in Sydney:

Police issue $35,000 in COVID-19 fines after illegal gathering at Sydney  church - ABC News

 

Fines are not enough....they should be made to spend a lengthy lockdown in the church. Bar the doors and let them feel what innocent people are feeling.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/aug/23/extraordinary-police-fine-dozens-of-churchgoers-after-service-in-western-sydney-covid-hotspot

 

Trial data from AstraZeneca (AZN.L) on Friday raised the prospect of a new treatment to prevent COVID-19 beyond vaccines, giving hope in particular for people who respond poorly to immunisation shots.

The British drugmaker said its new antibody therapy reduced the risk of people developing any COVID-19 symptoms by 77% in a late-stage trial.

While vaccines rely on an intact immune system to develop an arsenal of targeted antibodies and infection-fighting cells, AstraZeneca's AZD7442 therapy consists of lab-made antibodies that are designed to linger in the body for months to stifle the coronavirus in case of an infection.

The company said that 75% of the participants in the trial for the therapy - which comprises two types of antibodies discovered by Vanderbilt University Medical Center in the United States - had chronic conditions including some with a lower immune response to vaccinations.

Similar therapies made with a drug class called monoclonal antibodies are being developed by Regeneron (REGN.O), Eli Lilly (LLY.N) and GlaxoSmithKline (GSK.L) with partner Vir (VIR.O), competing for a role in COVID treatment and prevention.

Similar therapies made with a drug class called monoclonal antibodies are being developed by Regeneron (REGN.O), Eli Lilly (LLY.N) and GlaxoSmithKline (GSK.L) with partner Vir (VIR.O), competing for a role in COVID treatment and prevention.

But AstraZeneca is first to publish positive prevention trial data in the field and is now targeting conditional approval in major markets well before the end of the year, aiming to produce roughly 1 to 2 million doses by then.

How so they know the people did not make the antibodies naturally via their immune system from being in contact with the virus?

A blood test would show COVID antibodies.  This would be routine.

These were sent to me.

How can we tell with 100% accuracy what we see, read and hear, when Fox news (and others) are manipulating data and truths. When Fox is being taken to court over misleading the public on Covid, you have got to question the validity of most of what we know. There are sites that aren't influenced by Fox or the Murdochs and what comes from those seems at times to add up more than the main stream idiots. Also sites not influenced by wanting the members or comments (Social Media), are the ones who don't have their posts deleted and manipulated. That is unless you have been rude which may get you banned.

Worth the 30 min view. Or you can download to watch when you have time.

https://tapnewswire.com/2021/08/three-kids-dead-after-mass-vax-in-australia-aussie-vet-updates-stew-peters-video/

Or

https://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2021/08/three-kids-dead-after-mass-vax-in-australia-aussie-vet-updates-stew-peters-video-2675907.html

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