When the US Shot down an Iranian Commercial Plane

If you walked into any high school classroom in the United States and asked the students to describe their country's relationship with Iran, you'd probably hear words like "enemy" and "threat," maybe "distrust" and "nuclear." But ask them what the number 655 has to do with it, and you'd be met with silence.

Try the same thing in an Iranian classroom, asking about the United States, and you'd probably hear some of the same words. Mention the number 655, though, it's a safe bet that at least a few of the students would immediately know what you were talking about.

The number, 655, is a flight number: Iran Air 655. If you've never heard of it, you're far from alone. But you should know the story if you want to better understand why the United States and Iran so badly distrust one another and why it will be so difficult to strike a nuclear deal, as they're attempting to do at a summit in Switzerland this week.

The story of Iran Air 655 begins, like so much of the U.S.-Iran struggle, with the 1979 Islamic revolution. When Iraq invaded Iran the following year, the United States supported Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein against the two countries' mutual Iranian enemy. The war dragged on for eight awful years, claiming perhaps a million lives.

Toward the end of the war, on July 3, 1988, a U.S. Navy ship called the Vincennes was exchanging fire with small Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf. The U.S. Navy kept ships there, and still does, to protect oil trade routes. As the American and Iranian ships skirmished, Iran Air Flight 655 took off from nearby Bandar Abbas International Airport, bound for Dubai. The airport was used by both civilian and military aircraft. The Vincennes mistook the lumbering Airbus A300 civilian airliner for a much smaller and faster F-14 fighter jet, perhaps in the heat of battle or perhaps because the flight allegedly did not identify itself. It fired two surface-to-air missiles, killing all 290 passengers and crew members on board.

From the Washington Post

The one eyed PC Brigade will point to this as proof of US and Western hypocricy

Let's hear the one eyed comments from both sides on this one :)))

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Solomon

Interesting but you didn't actually let people know about the Iranian Revolution.  It was NOT an Islamic revolution, it was a PEOPLES REVOLUTION and came about because the PEOPLE were subjected to a murderous DICTATOR for decades.  This dictator was not only helped to overthrow a democratically elected government by the USA but was also financially and militarily supported by the USA during his reign.  The USA had bases in Iran and after the PEOPLES REVOLUTION, the USA was thrown OUT of IRAN.

THIS is why the USA supported the installation of and support of Saddam Hussein, to wage WAR on IRAN.  This is WHY 'the war' dragged on for eight awful years.  Although, it wasn't a war it was an illegal invasion by Iraq, under USA DIRECTION and FULL knowledge of all proposed and then actioned atrocities.

The next bit well okay but lets skip to the end bit.....

The navigable waters of the Strait of Hormuz belongs to Iran and is under their sovereignty - as recognised internationally.  SO THEN why is the USA putting WAR SHIPS in or around Iran and forcing their strait to allow USA interests to pass through it?  

Remember what the USA did when Panama refused to renew their agreement with the USA over the Panama Canal..... they dropped in military and murdered 7000 people and put their President in prison.  Needless to say the Panama agreement was signed.

So what is it that you are actually seeking in life Mussitate.

 A world  run by Ayatollahs, Hamas, Hezbollah, Putin, Socialist Stalinist, Marxist, Left wong tree hugging, union card carrying, anti Business anti capitalist Fine Arts graduates .

Sounds lovely. Where do I sign up ?

Don't be a total Dick or Dora, Solomon!

If you wanted to dribble rubbish, why put up an interesting post that was reasonably intelligent.

To much facts for you to deal with and didn't get the answers you wanted.

You asked about NEO CONS in another post and I gave you a LINK.

 

You asked about what I was about and I told you which I will repeat here:

I do not belong to any GROUP and certainly would NOT belong to an extremist fundamenatlist group.  

I am SIMPLY a humanitarian - DEFINITION: 

hu·man·i·tar·i·an

adjective

1.having concern for or helping to improve the welfare and happiness of people.

2.of or pertaining to ethical or theological humanitarianism.

3.pertaining to the saving of human lives or to the alleviation of suffering: a humanitarian crisis.

noun

4.a person actively engaged in promoting human welfare and social reforms, as a philanthropist.

5.a person who professes ethical or theological humanitarianism.

ESSENTIALLY, I care about fairness, equity and justice for ALL and not just a select FEW and I will NOT stand by and accept the murder and desecration of any peopleno matter who they are OR where they come from.


How bloody disappointing, as stated on the other post.... I gave you a lot more credit than you obviously deserve.

 

Oh! Just a small point......I certainly am NOT anti business I am PRO small and medium business but against MEGA CORPORATIONS.  These cancer growths simply extract and put nothing back - they destroy small and medium businesses; don't employ as much as small and medium businesses; don't pay taxes; they destroy a country's economy at their whim; and the list goes on.  ADDITIONALLY, they are so POWERFUL that they interfere with a country's DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES to make even MORE PROFITS for their very select and elite, greedy leashholders.  So get your facts right before you spit your poison.

sorry Abby

Missed your post.... liked it!

So what are "Humanitarian"  policies for a government Mussitate.

How do you turn rhetoric into positive political action.

Which Ozzie party would you support.

 

I have long posts as it is Solomon and you want me to give someone who can't even respond to others comments with dignity, a small book!!

I think the best answer is..... after you mate, after you..... and try to make it comprehensive and worth reading.  No one liners, something of substance.

The first thing you could write is where you are from, because your time line is way out for Australia!

I am from a parallel universe, where time bends in an anthropomorphic way and succumbs to paranormal telepathic manipulation of the predatory predecessors

Mussi, You are always such a gentleman - Thank you :)

The introductory verse of the thread is a quote from WP

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/16/the-forgotten-story-of-iran-air-flight-655/

Only put up for arguments sake - the rest can be found on link above

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