What's your take on the Barnaby Joyce saga?

 

Is it in the Australian public's best interest to learn more about Barnaby Joyce's private life, or is it just interesting for the Australian public?

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Just putting this out there in advance so she doesnt suffer the same hatred that poor old Barnaby has had to endure..

"Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk confirmed on Saturday that she has split with partner Shaun Drabsch and is now single.

She said that the end of the relationship was "amicable", and told The Sunday Mail, "I have no other comment to make" – the Mail reported that the pair remain friends.

Palasczuk and Drabsch's relationship caused controversy in the lead-up to last year's November 25 election.

Palaszczuk was accused of a conflict of interest – because Drabsch, who works for PricewaterhouseCoopers, had been involved with Indian mining company Adani's application for a Commonwealth-funded loan."

Suze  he was born in Tamworth to 5Th Generation on his mother’s side .

His Father was born in NZ came to Australia to attend Univercity and stayed . 

At the time his father came to Austrlia there was no Australian Cotizenship we were all British . 

The retrospectve law that NZ introduced said that all children of FATHERS 

born after they introduced the act were entitled to NZ citizenship.

So we have the case where foreign governments can determin who is illegible to sit in our Parliment .

Secondly if it had been his mother that was NZ it wouldn’t apply 

Thirdly this would not be the case in NZ itself .. 

I would have thought Women would be complaining about this case of blatant patrimony..

 

Barnaby has been hammered quite a bit and rightly so.

I don't often give sermons, but what about the lady in question eh?  What's she doing messing with  someone's marriage?  Not  to  mention birth  control? Is she that  stupid  or is she opportunistic?

I rest my tablets and wish you all a great Sunday.

Good point Micha.

All's well that might end well. Barnaby gets a younger model, Vikki gets the security of sharing his pension in her old age. Hope the wife gets everything else.

I note that Bill Shorten is not fronting the critism of Barnaby for obviosr reasons but Tanya Pilberseck is .Doe her personal life now withstand scrutiny 

Michael Couts Trotter is her husband 

EditWatch this pageMichael Coutts-Trotter

Michael Coutts-Trotter is an Australian public servant who is the current director-general of the New South Wales Department of Family and Community Services. He was previously the director-general of the Departments of Education and Training and Finance and Services. Coutts-Trotter was given a nine-year prison sentence after being convicted for the importation and distribution of heroin into Australia in 1986.[1]

try to keep to the topic please.

The topic being ?

In addition to everything else you can't read? Nincompoop?

I don’t know if I have read it correctly but did we really have a convicted herion dealer in charge of our children’s education . 

Bob Hawke

Bill Shorten

Tony Burke

Gareth Evans, who LIED to Parliament for several years about his affair with whatsername.

It IS relevant to the topic as far as I'm concerned.

Labor do hypocrisy so well, and the media play right into their hands.  

And yes Pliberseks' hubby.   How  many others would be able to get high paying jobs .....AND in the public service at that....with a criminal conviction on their record.   

It is not having a criminl record that will exclude you from the Public Service, but failling to declare it will.

We're now five pages in so I can't remember for sure but I think the original poster made the point that it is the provision of a high paying job to the mistress that is the crutch of the matter, all else falls into speculation.

Yes, other politicians have had affairs, and on both sides of politics.  

It's too easy to choose our side and make allowances for them that don't apply to the other side, so I'll try not to do that.  I just want to make this point. Two people who are involved while married to other people may not be cheating in the strictest sense.

No fault divorces mean people have to live apart for 12 months, or at least they used to, maybe that's changed and if so I'm sure someone will tell me.  But it's quite conceivable that two people could meet, become involved and even for one of them to become pregnant in that time period.

Now I'm not suggesting that is what has happened here, or anywhere else for that matter, all I'm saying is that it is easy to point to any particular twosome and say they are having sex while married to other people and that would be perfectly true, but the reality of the relationships might be a little different.  I'm certainly not making excuses for Barnaby.  Personally, I'm still having trouble getting my head around the fact that at least two women apparently have slept with him, no accounting for taste.

I'll finish by once again saying that the crutch of the matter in this instance is the provision of a high paying job that, as I understand it, never existed before and hasn't been filled again now that the woman concerned has left it.

 

Oh my goodness, talk about a Freudian slip :),  Thank you to those, who no doubt picked up on it, but were too nice to point it out.

 Leonie

 

The title post:

"What's your take on the Barnaby Joyce saga?

Is it in the Australian public's best interest to learn more about Barnaby Joyce's private life, or is it just interesting for the Australian public?"

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So I think the heading takes us into a broader area than just the womans' job.

By the way, I'm one who quite liked Barnaby, but since he became Deputy I thought frankly he's not really up to the job.   That may seem irrelelevant to the topic, but my feeling was he hasn't got quite the intellect needed.   The way he's mishandled this issue is proof in my opinion.

Thanks Darcie, you're quite right, I think I might have been remembering one of the replies instead of the original post.

I agree with your assessment BTW, although I can't say I have ever particularly liked him.  Having said that, I think he must be a likeable sort of fellow to be so well received in his own electorate, where I'm sure the rumours would have been pretty well known.  

It's often the case that people we only see on TV are perceived differently in real life.

 

 

 

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oops, am I off topic?

Yes Ray, you are off topic!

This has nothing to do with Labor's continual efforts in providing proof to support the existence of the Peter Principle.

No one knows what is happening/going on in any marriage ... and it is not anyone else's business.

No one can really judge another.

As long as a politician is true to the Australian people, this is all that matters.

ex PS,

I always find your comments intelligent and well thought out. I was wondering how the tax-payer would be financing  his sex life.  If he were setting his mistress up in an expensive appartment, etc. ... yes, that undoubtedly would be financed by the tax-payer, however, I don't know what the personal arrangements were.

To call this "love"  I think is making assumptions.   More likely to be what van der Velde calls "weak and irrisistible desire."  The stuff of most affairs.

Its disgucting the way that woman forced herself on poor Barnaby

Well Twilla -- BJ was and never has been true to Austalia OR its people -- he is a downright liar and is selling of the country for the almighty $$$$$$$$

It is not just whats happening in BJ's marriage,  it is how he lies and rips off us as well he has NO morals at all and it has been caught out lying about the water --also lying about the Adani and the amount of jobs same as the QLG Premier -- he is NOT a suitable person for the position he holds and Turnbull should do something about him --

Barnaby parked "Litle Barney"in a 5 minute loading zone, he overstayed and had to pay a penalty.  He made the mistake and he has to pay for that mistake, not us.

All this nonsense about him being entitled to a private life is just a load of rubbish being used by the rabid right to try and misdirect the comments.

We now see the political partys concerned start to talk about how no rules have been broken, the standard response from someone or an entity trying to dodge an ETHICS issue.

I think after today's party meeting (Nationals) that Barnaby will probably be gone.

Now that this is out in the open watch for other "skeletons in the closets" to come forth.

OK sure exPS, but apply the same standards to Bill Shorten and the rest on the other side.

 

My understanding is that Bill Shorten and Chloe were both separated from their partners when they got together, but were waiting for their divorces to be finalised. There is no shame in that. 

Who in the Labor Party has had an affair with an underling staff member? Better to name them than insinuate Frank. Any politician in any Party who has behaved unethically should be named and investigated. Barnaby deserves to be shamed for his unethical behaviour, especially since it has involved tax payer funding. Creating a new position for Vikki Campion to get her out of his office is an outrageous misuse of tax payer funds.

Frank, I would, if they had acted in the same way as Barnaby.  Did They?  Did they steal from the public to finnance their private sexual activity?  Did they accept money from a rich "friend" to pay for an apartment?  I thought the Right was daed against politicians having their bills paid for by big business?

Or do we only have to apply the same standards when we are judging tyhe Left of politics and a dofferent set of standards when loooking to the Right.

I suggest you take your own advice.

I am quite willing to admit it if I am wrong, I do not remember the cases you have stated so go ahead set me straight, tell me how all the others stole money from the public purse to finnance their private lives.

I find it very sad that some forum members are so loyal to their political party, they refuse to acknowledge that one of their number has done the wrong thing, his true character has been revealed and as a result, respect for him is now zero.  It will be interesting to see how Malcoln handles this dire situation now unravelling in Canberra.  

Yes, the same ones who will take every opportunity to blow every act of the opposition into an act of treason or similar in order to concoct a fake crisis.

This is a concocted crisis to divert attention away from the fact that the Adani mine is tearing Labor apart.

 

So there is no pregnant girlfriend, she did not have jobs invented for her and there is no family.  So fair enough, Barnaby did not steal money to pay his girlfreind, nothing to see here, thanks for straightening it out out for us.

I suppose his having his rent paid for him by a land developer is also an invention.  Doesn't that one eye get a bit tired, being the only one that gets used?

Adani, remind me is that the one that was caught faulsifying environmental damage reports and overstating the number of jobs that it was going to create?

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