Untimed locals call on the block?

Telcos may no longer need to provide untimed local calls under a government plan to overhaul consumer safeguards created before the rise of mobile phones and the internet.

The Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Communications has questioned the ongoing need for a number of regulations as reliance on landline phone connections declines.

A consultation paper released on Monday highlights how many telco regulations were created when government-owned Telstra had the monopoly on the market. These rules were also created when landlines were our main way of communicating.

The department said some obligations facing telcos have "diminishing relevance and could potentially be progressively phased out".

The untimed local call could be the first one to go.

Fixed and mobile phone plans have mostly moved towards unlimited overall call value. Local and long distance calls are no longer charged separately, which raises “the question of whether there is an ongoing need for a formal regulatory obligation for an untimed local call”.

The abolition of the untimed call obligation would be welcomed by telcos, but it might trigger concerns for older Australians who are still more reliant on their conventional connections. However, the possibility of grandfathering existing plans and arrangements has been floated.

“I think potentially there will be some out of this we might decide there is no longer a case for,” said communications minister Paul Fletcher.

“But even if we decided that, you have to think about what to do about it. You could phase it out and grandfather existing arrangements.”

“Take untimed calls. If we got people coming back and saying it was really important, for example older people or people in rural and regional Australia … We might very well say, okay it is a big deal and make no change.”

Would you missed untimed local calls?

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what next?  I use untimed calls - local and national - to keep in touch with family and friends - some without mobiles or email access - at this rate we could lose the power of speech - for heaven's sake - leave us alone - or give us free postage so we can resurrect the art of letter writing!

 

Why make it harder and harder to communicate? I much prefer to chat on my landline rather than my mobile. It's more comfortable to hold, easier to hear, doesn't drop out and doesn't go flat as quickly.

Hear, hear, Fedup! Mobile phoes are horrid things to hold and use. As for that stupid clumsy "SMS" and unintelligible "Voicemail"....

Retirees are about suffer some more.

The other advantage of a landline is you can have extensions upstairs, downstairs and in different rooms. With a mobile you have to carry it around and up and down stairs with you.

my wife has severe arthritis and cant hold a phone for very long but she can have a 2 hour phone call with her sister (yawn) by using her mobile on speaker.

Grandfathering................ speak English, real language not 'trendoid terminology'

The less you talk the better the goverment like it "The quite australian"

 

$20 per month and I have unlimited, untimed local and national calls through my mobile.  Haven't had a landline for years and don't want one.  Get with the strength. Act smart, there are great deals out there if you look.

It's nothing to do with prices, deals or acting smart. I have unlimited calls on my landline and my mobile and don't like using my mobile for phone calls, unless I have to make a call when I'm not at home. I much prefer to talk on a landline.

You got to be kidding, Buggsie! Perhaps you have misshapen hands....

Happy to stick with my $5 a month unlimited local and national calls landline and not pay for a mobile.

I love my landline and my desktop computer which work so beautifully together - I dislike mobile phones and only use mine as a backup or emergency phone while out.  Believe me I am so very tired and fed up with so many knowall interfering people deciding for us what is or is not wanted by us particularly as their ideas for us are never in our best interests and ALWAYS COST US MORE. 

I agree.

I couldn't agree more, Jaz.   I also love my landline and desktop computer.  I hate mobiles but have one just in case needed.

Me too.

This article surprises me as I have a plan for broadband and landline that allows me unlimited calls local and nationally for a competitive monthly fee. My mobile is with a different carrier and for $20 each 4 weeks I have unlimited calls local, nationally and internationally. My view is that the Telcos are the ones who set the rules, not the government.

What's next! Pay to use a public Toilet. This whole state of government is getting way off track! This mob must just sit around thinking of ways to relieve people of their hard-earned cash.

Women used to have to pay to use a public toilet, ronioby.  I remember in DJ's in the city there was a women sitting there just to take your money.  This was a very long time ago.

I remember having to pay to use the public toilets in Australia and overseas in the 50's, 60's & 70's. I can't remember when they stopped charging. 22 years ago I was in Alice Springs and they were charging 50 cents to use the public toilets. 

why didn't men pay?

in Italy we all pay

 

I use the landline for calls to family, which tend to be lengthy, as the volume is higher and it is actually easier using a handset than having to be very precise in where I position my mobile on my ear for these calls. 

If they bring in timed local calls I will revert to a landline and they can stick their mobile phone where the sun doesn't shine.

As the NBN replaces conventional telephone lines and internet services, there will shortly come a time when everyone will be making calls via the internet even if they don't know that's what they are doing. Already you have to change your landline when you connect to NBN to one that is compatible. Failure to do so will result in not having phone access at all.

Given then that most plans are going to be data based, there should be no fee at all for seperate call changes. Most Telcos now offer unlimited data for a certain monthly fee. The trick will be in deciding which plan is suitable for you i.e. how much do you use your landline for calls and what is the cost of that in data?

 

I've had NBN for nearly 6 years and still have the same landline phone and phone number that I had before. It just plugs into the voice point on my NBN box, not the data point. I'm not making calls over the internet.

You are making calls over the internet.  The NBN is a digital network utilising the internet for both data and voice.  

 

Interesting that because the Legislation may no longer compel the service provider to include un-timed local calls, there's the suggestion that they will become tolled calls.  Nearly all plans for landline and mobile now include unlimited local, intrastate and interstate calls, both in number and duration.

Everyone who has either migrated or been migrated over to the NBN (and eventually that will be all of us) will've been advised that in the event of a power blackout, your home phone becomes in-operable and you must arrange an alternative at your own expense.

I've inherited a plan that includes unlimited local, state wide and national with 30G of data and the mobile for $85/month.  This sets back the callers who offer the preceding for $110/mnth.

Fedup, I spent a bit more on a very good mobile phone and when travelling it essentially replaces two cameras and has very good audio quality and the map and internet access has been very useful.  The Facetime function was of especial value for my elderly mother who was living in a locked down aged care facility with very limited visitor opportunities.  The fact that she was able to see and talk with her daughter, granddaughter and great granddaughter and sister, and they with her, less than two weeks before she passed away had a value beyond money for all involved.

Try some different mobile phones and you will find one that is not too uncomfortable when held for extended times, but remember that they can also be used on hands free speaker phone or comfortable blue tooth ear pods.

I also have cordless handsets for the landlines at the addresses that I frequent and with management I have not had problems with batteries going flat.

It's a disgrace, what if someone stutters!!!

Challenge them to a game of "Snap"!

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