The Israeli Blockade

The outrage from around the world isexpected
from the enemies of Israel, but comdemnation
from the likes of america, australia and britain etc.
is astounding considering what happened during
their blockade of Iraq.for ten years then at their weakest
the brave invasion by the men of steel. any ship trying
to break the blockade was boarded.
The invasion of a weak country, the death toll etc.
The warning was there! the blockade was on!
any ship trying to break the blockade would be boarded
and turned back.
Our navy boards intruding ships along the coast all
the time, look what happened when one boat was set on
fire by those trying to break the 'blockade'
our boys were lucky not to be killed.

watching the news tonight I saw the muslim community
coming out in force denouncing israeli, condemning
all israelis because of this action, Isn't this racial
condemnation???
say anything about them and all hell breaks loose.
Look what happened to two Pastors who only read from the
koran to the congregation and taken to court for
attacking islam.even though what they said was in the koran.

Hasn't the Jewish people suffered enough from the actions
that have happened in nearly every country especially russia
and germany, Why cannot they be left in peace in such a small
country. Peace could then bring prosperity to the palestinians.

seth/.

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mara, we both agree that Andrew Bolt does at times only gives one side

of a story, In this case maybe he thought people understood what has been

happening since the founding of Israel, how the arab nations have conducted

a war against them since 1948. the years of suicide bombers entering

Israel freely, palestinians employed in Israel, finally israel had to take a stand

Do you also know or remember that Israel offered Arafat, three times what he

had been demanding, in regard to occupied land, but each time the offer was

refused. they do not want peace with Israel.

Humanitarian concern does not seem to be in vogue with terrorists.

Why are the Arab nations so hostile. What is it that makes people

so willing to attack a country doing the same as others to safeguard themselves,

Where was the condemnation on the invasion of a weakened country after

10 years of a blockade, how many ships were boarded to prevent supplies



Now you have all these dubious countries jumping up and down ,

Take a look at how much freedom their own people have. seth.

seth, I do understand what you are saying and agree with a lot of it but I think the Israelis handled [b]this[/b] situation badly.

Perhaps they were sucked into a trap I don't know for sure but when they say they were attacked, I find that hard to believe when they stormed the ship at night with guns.

What did they expect ? A cup of tea and scones ?

fwed,

you are quite right, the situation could have been handled

in a different way but I have a feeling no matter what the

israeli's did, it was going to be made to appear wrong.

How else were they going to board a blockade breaking

boat, no country sends unarmed troops to board a ship,

You have to be ready for anything, so when they were attacked,

[As per TV.} Which no doubt you have seen, they reacted..

This wasn't a holiday cruise ship full of people on a holiday'

This was a boat full of people out to confront and to break

through a blockade.

Once again I repeat , the blockade was well known,

they knew they would be boarded, if they had let the

inspection take place, and no arms found it would not

have resulted in a attack on 'all' israel.

No one is attacking all 'Turkey' For the behaviour on the boat

by some turkish nationals. seth.

And I choose to blockade my street because I fear too much noise will make me go insane*



The lawfulness of the blockade is questioned by lawyers who say that international waters belong to all to use freely.

One person suggested that if Israelis were concerned about the cargo, they could have waited for them to land, and then, search the ships; that would be within their rights.



IMHO they wanted to tell the world , don't mess with us* we will do it our way.

They've been supported by the west for so long they can not imagine that the west is not going to support them in any situation. Even Blair came on to say the problem has to be fixed. Palestinian people can not continue to live like that.



As for 300 rockets fired from Palestine I'd question that. Sounds more like David and Goliath**

I have been reading reams on the blockade Mara. I copied the 300

rockets & mortars from official records, but forgot to keep reference,

& now can't find the source.

And I choose to blockade my street because I fear too much noise will make me go insane*



The lawfulness of the blockade is questioned by lawyers who say that international waters belong to all to use freely.

One person suggested that if Israelis were concerned about the cargo, they could have waited for them to land, and then, search the ships; that would be within their rights.



IMHO they wanted to tell the world , don't mess with us* we will do it our way.

They've been supported by the west for so long they can not imagine that the west is not going to support them in any situation. Even Blair came on to say the problem has to be fixed. Palestinian people can not continue to live like that.



As for 300 rockets fired from Palestine I'd question that. Sounds more like David and Goliath**



Israel invited them to land the boats to be inspected before the cargo would be sent to Gazza. The activists declined. So much for your theory.



Blockades have been established by many countries for various reasons. Too bad some attorneys wish to say it is illegal. It really is a reality, including for Australia. In recent times a intercepted boat boarded by the Australians exploded and injured some Australians.



Last year the Israelis stopped an Iranian ship and found it to be filled with tons of military equipment and explosives.



This entire thing is a trap to make Israel seem to be evil when it is really the Hama and Iran that are evil.



Yesterday there was an attempt to get those shipments into Gazza but the Hamas rejected them for some dumb reason. So much for you humanitarianism needs of the Palestinians in Gazza.

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bobagain. Hear, hear, couldn't have put it better.



It seems that no matter how much evidence is shown

about the whole set up against Israel it will not be

accepted by those with an axe to grind.



ships are being boarded and searched in international

seas all the time, Aust, being one. most of the time

accepted by the people on boats. with no problem. sth.

For those that think blockades are definitely illegal this article will clarify that they are not only legal but that they happen all the time.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704025304575284210429984110.html?mod=googlenews_wsj



Also read the Wikipedia article that describes blockades and even says the UN can declare one.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade



Too many panic comments being tossed around.

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Looks like Isrealis heard a lot about Somali pirates and thought good idea to copy them.



If Egypt or Iran had demanded that from Israel, would they have obliged?



But they are not stupid. Like their US brothers, they can smell oil.

What? Oil in Gaza? Yes bro Bin. yu not the only one that's got it*

Looks like Isrealis heard a lot about Somali pirates and thought good idea to copy them.



If Egypt or Iran had demanded that from Israel, would they have obliged?



But they are not stupid. Like their US brothers, they can smell oil.

What? Oil in Gaza? Yes bro Bin. yu not the only one that's got it*



Well, if there is oil in the Gazza then Israel really blew it. They allowed the Palestinians to live there for a while and then they gave Gazza directly back to the Palestinians. Hamas decided it was a good place to shoot rockets at Israe, but so far has not drilled for oil. So Israel gets no oil, but they do get lots of rockets.



Egypt is in agreement that Israel and Egypt does not want Hamas to get more weapons. So if Egypt asks Israel for inspection rights I think Israel would allow Egypt to inspect. Would Iran ask for rights to inspect Israels ships? I would suspect that Israel would say yes to that too. It is common for most countries to allow inspections before entering a blockade district. Except for groups that are up to something less than honesty. Like what happened recently.



Did you bother to read about blockades that I posted. Berlin was subject to a Russian blockade. Interesting isn't it to know that blockades are common practice and used by most countries.

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On the news I heard that they are sending another boat' boats?

from turkey to palestine, isn't this provocation, knowing there is

a blockade, this time let them be checked out peacefully,

or do they want confrontation.

Mara, I find it hard that you believe there is oil in gaza, if so,

why on earth did israel hand it back to the palestinians?

Why not ask yourself what have you realy got against Israel???

seth

You cannot show anything to those who are blind. What on Earth, has

the Somali pirates, who are plundering ships for personal gain, got to

do with Israel trying to protect themselves from rockets supplied by Iran?

What has noise on somebody's street got to do with rockets being fired

into public places in order to cause mayhem & death to innocents?

There is no blockade whatsoever on any shipping, other than armaments.

On the news I heard that they are sending another boat' boats?

from turkey to palestine, isn't this provocation, knowing there is

a blockade, this time let them be checked out peacefully,

or do they want confrontation.

Mara, I find it hard that you believe there is oil in gaza, if so,

why on earth did israel hand it back to the palestinians?

Why not ask yourself what have you realy got against Israel???seth



Blockade? If Gaza has been given back to Palestinians, how come it is Israel and not Palestinians putting up blockade??



Seth; Israel has a terrific PR machine and they seem to get away with stuff for which other countries would be punished one way or another. It is sensing this injustice that stirs up people.

Clinton said America takes it seriously if one of their citizens is killed. Let's see how are they going to deal with one of their young men killed on the ship. Will it blow away like the Mossad scenario?



Gaza and oil: http://current.com/news-and-politics/89734051_gaza-the-real-reason-israel-attacked-gaza-oil.htm



The military invasion of the Gaza Strip by Israeli Forces bears a direct relation to the control and ownership of strategic offshore gas reserves.

This is a war of conquest. Discovered in 2000, there are extensive gas reserves off the Gaza coastline.



Who Owns the Gas Fields



The issue of sovereignty over Gaza's gas fields is crucial. From a legal standpoint, the gas reserves belong to Palestine.

The death of Yasser Arafat, the election of the Hamas government and the ruin of the Palestinian Authority have enabled Israel to establish de facto control over Gaza's offshore gas reserves.

British Gas (BG Group) has been dealing with the Tel Aviv government. In turn, the Hamas government has been bypassed in regards to exploration and development rights over the gas fields.



There is no blockade whatsoever on any shipping, other than armaments.



According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs "everything from wheelchairs, dry food items, and crayons, to stationary, soccer balls, and musical instruments" is being stopped. International aid group Mercy Corps said it was blocked from sending 90 tons of macaroni and other foodstuffs.



Canned meat (including tuna), mineral water, sesame paste, tea and coffee are allowed. However, canned fruit, fruit juices and chocolate are not allowed into Gaza.

[i]From Wiki[/i]

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