Seniors Issues, Fair and Foul

Thank you for this opportunity to speak on my own and all pensioners behalf. I was lucky today to be able to get onto ABC Radio 891 in Adelaide on two separate occasions. The first one was when they had a panel of The Advertiser Editor in Chief, Samela Harris (Reporter) and Simon Royal (ABC Programming Manager) fielding calls. Samela Harris (whom I have known for years) persisted in calling the "Bail Out" for Pensioners as a "Hand Out" and I was incensed. One is screened by the Telephonist before they allow you on air and I was very happy when they accepted me. I addressed my comment (without blame) to Samela Harris and said that you are a victim of your own Industry, Media has labeled this money as a "Hand Out" and it is nothing of the sort. We were forsaken in the March budget and received not a razoo. The Fiscal Benefit was simply carried over from the Howard Government and not an initiative and we must exist upon CPI increases of around 1-3% and the media has the gall to call this a Pensioners Hand Out. Greg Kelton (Advertiser Editing Manager in Chief) was extremely apologetic for an exceptionally bad turn of phrase and Samela confronted with his stance had no option but to be apologetic as well. I suggested that while we are at it, you have been discussing the "Social Sector" as a burden upon the Tax Paying Sector of the population. I mentioned that have you stopped and considered that we are the first Pensioners to have to pay tax thanks to John Howard and the GST. We pay Tax upon every single thing we purchase from a newspaper through to our Toilet Paper. You sit back and state that we are a burden upon the Tax Payers. Sorry, that is a vast mistake indeed.

The second time I was lucky enough to get on, they had an Executive from Telstra whom was extolling the virtues about the rationalisation in the Discounting method that Telstra uses to Pensioners. They have generated a Computer Letter to all their customers (Pensioners) stating that if you do not respond within 30 days from the date this letter was written, your Pensioners Line Rental Discount will be dropped and you will only receive any bonus scheme you are on (Free Calls). I managed to get on again and spoke to this man and he said that you were given both the Discounts in error and you should be grateful that you have enjoyed them for the nearly 3 years (in my case) that you have had them. I said to "Wait a moment". I explained how I had been "Churned". When things are quiet in Telstra Call Centres (my daughter worked in the Adelaide one) they had to cold canvass people and were expected generate more business. I took the call this day in 2005 and I would normally have dismissed it but I listened. The young lady said that do I have "Foxtel" and I said I did with "Foxtel". She said who is your major carrier for Phone and I said Optus. What about Broadband and I replied Optus, Mobile Phone, I stated Optus. She said that if you Port all of your business to Telstra, this is what we will offer you. You will get your Pensioner Line Rental Discount - I said that I already get that and she then said that for the act of Porting over, Telstra will give me the Home Users Bonus Scheme which in my case with all four products would amount to 125 free Phone Calls every month. On the strength of that, I decided to go with it. Imagine my disgust in March this year when I got the letter stating that if I do nothing, I will lose my Pensioners Line Discount in 30 days from the date on the letter. A user had just got this letter and that is why it arose today. When I said all of my story to the Telstra Executive he had no answer. He said that should never have happened. I suggested that may well be so but the fact is that it did and I suggest that you are operating under false pretences. He did not like that but the Announcer (David - ABC) was on my side and he hounded this guy until the Telstra guy was saved by the 1200 noon News Cast (which did nothing for my humour) but them is the breaks because I really (and the announcer) had this Telstra guy on the back foot.

Again, thank you for the ability to speak on the behalf of all of the Social Sector and keep up the good work, please Kaye.

Molly M, SA

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Telestra are the biggest liars on this earth, I had a situation where someone actually came to the house and foolishly I gave him time of day,I was AAPT and happy with i but he asked to go through my accounts and he showed me how much I could save by returning to telstra. Like a fool I fell for it and the result was my first bill was $100 more than AAPT after abusing whoever was unfortunate to enough to take my call to telstra I returned to AAPT. I still get three calls a week from telstra via mumbai or timbuktu but they dont last 10 seconds with me.

Good for you for getting the chance and putting your case so well tand showing them up for what they are, just a bunch of thieving robbers.

This is just what pensioners need to do - get on air whenever possible, write to newspapers and stir things up. Let the general population know what is really happening. I was told recently by a young person (25 years old), that pensioners get so many lurks and perks, like free car registration, discounted phone line rental, cheap internet etc. etc. that he couldn't wait to retire. I responded by telling him just how much these discounts amounted to and what the average pensioner has left over to pay for the basis of day to day living., which came as a surprise to him. The perception out there is that we are not doing so badly and we need to get the message out there that this generation is probably in a worse situation than those generations following. So seniors, get writing, ring talk-back shows, but please stay off the old chestnut of singls versus marrieds, self-funded versus pensioners, because then we just sound like whingers who can't even agree between ourselves.

This is just what pensioners need to do - get on air whenever possible, write to newspapers and stir things up. Let the general population know what is really happening. I was told recently by a young person (25 years old), that pensioners get so many lurks and perks, like free car registration, discounted phone line rental, cheap internet etc. etc. that he couldn't wait to retire. I responded by telling him just how much these discounts amounted to and what the average pensioner has left over to pay for the basis of day to day living., which came as a surprise to him. The perception out there is that we are not doing so badly and we need to get the message out there that this generation is probably in a worse situation than those generations following. So seniors, get writing, ring talk-back shows, but please stay off the old chestnut of singls versus marrieds, self-funded versus pensioners, because then we just sound like whingers who can't even agree between ourselves.





Jade I do listen to talk-back radio a fair bit, and I have never heard one single caller or commentator imply that seniors or pensioners of any type are not doing badly. The young person to whom you refer can be excused through ignorance.

Until I stopped working, I had no idea what it's like, not to have a regular decent income.



I have not heard either, that pensioners are becoming greedy or whingers. Quite the opposite. Everyone I hear is on the side of the pensioners, understanding that costs have risen dramatically in the last 12 months.

I understand you are not saying such a thing, but are fearful this might come about. I really believe the majority understand the plight of pensioners.



It is only on this forum that I have seen these kinds of allegations.



Many pensioners have admitted that they voted for Labor after the campaign spin of inferring that this lot would bring grocery and fuel prices down. I have yet to hear ONE single person say they have saved money since the introduction of Grocery Watch.

Fuel Watch of course, if implemented, will have the same result...nil........and all at huge cost in the millions, of taxpayers money.



I was very pleased to note that the AS Admin felt that comments from other AS contributors were important enough to post on this forum.





One poster on here said it's rude not to be grateful.

If you want to see rude, have a look at QT in Parliament, where Rudd this afternoon, turned his back on Malcolm Turnbull the entire time he was talking.....a habit born from the day he took over as Leader of the Labor Party.....always turning his back when Howard or Costello spoke.

A most ill-mannered and undignified attitude.

Very brave of Rudd to turn his back on Turnbull, giving him the chance to knife him in the back like he's done to his Liberals to get where he is now. God lets hope we are not going to start defending these creatures.

I would like to make two comments, firstly all the previous writers talked about the pensioners, well the pensioners are better off than those of us on the widow allowance. Even those on the widow allowance have two levels of benefit- if you were born before 1/7/1955 and satisfy all the criteria for the allowance then you get the money- which is only the newstart benefit(the dole) and the basic health care card, once you turn 60 you still only get the newstart benefit however if you hound Centrelink enough you will get the pensioner concession card and that is all. The other comment is about Telstra , they are as useless as tits on a bull. Since I turned 60 last year and got my pension concession card they have managed to get one account correct.It is only because this computer and the internet access is on loan to me that requires me to stay with Telstra, if I could leave them I would, I would not go to Optus because we had a lot of trouble with them in the past so I do not know who I would go to but they would have to be better than what I am stuck with.

Toot - Thing is the reason for the change in widows pension along with Mature Age Pension which used to be paid at age 60 in light of the fact that not many jobs were available to 60+ - Labor government of Paul Keating did away with these benefits in 1995 so widows after 1 July 1955 had to go on the dole same as the rest of us working females - they did of course then pay the woman separately from the man - prior to that lumped in and man got the payment for both and Centrelink would not speak to the female partner at all - bit of a good thing - but they still persist in this couple business on Age pension even though pay the female herself.

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There is an Age discrimination Act these days brought in by Peter Costello and thing is you should downoad it and read it and quote it when you next go for a job and they tell you you are too old. Google Age Discrimination Act 2004 and yu will find a lot of hits - have to have a go thru them and read up as I am darn sure you can use this to get a job or ought to be able to.

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