There sure needs to be some transparency shown about all that has taken place

Perhaps "The Greens" will surprise everyone.

Maybe a good choice...................................... ;-)

A lot of talk about voting for them at a meeting

we went to recently..Could the outsider sneak in and win

the race? maybe. Sure not the same 2 horse race as it has

always been is it....

All the best

Phyl.

I don't think so Phyl--if they ruled we wouldn't be able to afford to live and we would be over run with boat people

I think Phyl if you read the Greens policies you will soon sort them as real tossers.



They have an open door policy on immigration, their carbon tax will send us all to the poor house just to name but a couple, and I just couldn't bring myself to vote for a party lead by a sad pathetic old poof.

The Green make somany promises but they know they won't get in so they can say what they like--but where would they find the money for all those promises if they did get in--as far as Bob Brown goes he did do a lot for Tasse --ie the Dams etc--I really don't care what his sexual preference is

I am beginning to wonder about the nature of the Australian voter.

For the last 2 1/2 years, up until a few short weeks ago, Kevin Rudd

was the most popular Prime Minister that Australia ever voted in.

[b]He won the 2007 election, with the biggest majority ever achieved in

our short Political History. Amongst the faithful, he was the epitamy

of the second coming, who, in spite of 1 or 10 total stuff ups, was

looked upon as the founder of the new vision for Australia.[/b] On top of

all that, he took on, a vocally, very loyal woman, as his deputy. Now,

his loyal deputy has stabbed him in the back & done a deal, that will

put the Greens in charge of the Senate.

I have to wonder if Brutus had this level of support after he inserted

the dagger into the back of the allmighty living God, Ceaser?

My bold Innes. Yes I find it quite fascinating to watch the so called loyalty not only of the MP's, but in the followers. Rudd was almost deitised, then in the blink of an eye, he's removed from the his position of Prime Minister, and replaced with someone who ony a fortnight before was telling us she was 100% behind Rudd. Just as bemusing now is the switch from the Labor voters who are now hailing Gillard as the new messiah.

To compare the situation with changing an opposition leader is ludicrous. This episode will go down in the history books.

Speaking of loyalty. while I have no time for Phillip Adams' politics in general, I applaud him for REAL loyalty. He withdrew his membership of the ALP when Rudd was executed. That's loyalty.

As for the Greens...I hope people remember why Tony Abbott was elected leader of the Opposition.

It was in the main, because he opposed the ETS...the biggest tax ever.

The Greens didn't think it went far enough. If Labor wins, the Greens will be running the country, just as they have been in the States and even councils.

(The Royal Commission into the Vic bushfires found there had been no significant fuel reduction since 1993.)

We would end up paying more than we already are for all our utilities.

Many small businesses would be lost, and big business would be forced into massive and costly changes to how their business is run. This would in turn, put prices up in every area.

I too, wonder at the nature of the voter.

Just as bemusing now is the switch from the Labor voters who are now hailing Gillard as the new messiah.



I think Gillard got a lift in the polls when she first took the top job and lets face it the old drover's dog could have done so with the unpopularity of Rudd. Now people, especially pensioners are starting to look closer at Gillard they dont like what they see and the polls have reflected the drop to now being even-stevens. Unless she comes up with something on illegal Immigration and as far as SA is concerned the Murray, I think she may even get rolled.



Speaking of amusing, wouldn't they be in a dilemma then -- after shafting Rudd to then be beaten? Its a shame the knives wouldn't be out then. Now that would be moving forward LOL

Unless she comes up with something on illegal Immigration and as far as SA is concerned the Murray, I think she may even get rolled.

Interesting comment Tanwin. You would certainly have your ear to the ground there.

I have heard some commentators say Victoria and SA could get Labor over the line.

Victoria is the most Labor of all the States, of course, so if SA is starting to swing...interesting times.

I still think Kevin Rudd is a fine bloke and also like

Julia albeit not 100% sure because of the way she came to power.



I really would not like to see Labour come down to the tactics of the debarcle of the Libs.

re Mr. Howard and Mr. Peacock of times gone by.

with each taking the lead with "you take it " no "you take it"

but if Kevin did come back I would vote for him and still

thinking on Julia and Labour as surely the best bet at this time.

Phyl.

Innes and Tanwin, have just seen a very interesting interview on Lateline with a Mr Mark Aarons, a former adviser to the Labor Govt. He has written an article called 'The Hollowmen" for the Monthly, which would, I imagine, also be interesting. I shouldn't be surprised if Bolt does an article on it as well.

But in any case if interested... tonight's Lateline interview should be online tomorrow sometime.

Phyl, you are epitamising the very thing that I opened this post to comment on.

You would like to see the murder victim rise from the dead, because he was

so wonderful. BUT, if he doesn't, you think that his perfect replacement is

his murderer!!!

Phyl I agree with you. As you can see you can't please some people

no matter what you do. The very people who are screaming the loudest

about Mr. Rudd stepping aside for Julia are the very people who were crying

KRudd is no good KRudd did this KRudd did that KRudd is sending us broke

Get rid of KRudd at any price.There are reams and reams of posts

by the lib side of politics saying in no uncertain terms KRudd MUST GO.

Now Mr Rudd has stepped aside they are defending him.

Talk about hypocrites.

Lateline transcript.



http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2010/s2975015.htm

Phyl I agree with you. As you can see you can't please some people

no matter what you do. The very people who are screaming the loudest

about Mr. Rudd stepping aside for Julia are the very people who were crying

KRudd is no good KRudd did this KRudd did that KRudd is sending us broke

Get rid of KRudd at any price.There are reams and reams of posts

by the lib side of politics saying in no uncertain terms KRudd MUST GO.

Now Mr Rudd has stepped aside they are defending him.

Talk about hypocrites.

So true Zapot, you put that perfectly..

I am amused at all the chat about murderers & victims rising fom the dead.

Are these really adults ?