People who don't want the Covid 19 vaccine

Your article mentions that many Australians don't want the vaccine because it was developed too quickly. I find it annoying/disgraceful that the Australian national and state health people have not taken up this specific point and mentioned/explained, many times, that modern technology provides excellent resources/systems to develop vaccines much more quickly than in the past. It's a critical point, because it's obvious that the more people who are immunized the better for all of us. 



How COVID-19 vaccines were developed in record time, without compromising safety

When Ebola exploded across West Africa in 2014, it took more than five years to get a vaccine approved by drug regulators.

Fast forward to 2020, and researchers were able to develop multiple protective coronavirus vaccines and get them authorised within 12 months of the virus being discovered.

It's a spectacular and unparalleled scientific achievement — and promises to help bring the pandemic under control.

But it's left some people wondering: if vaccines normally take years to develop, just how did we get here so fast?

It can be tempting to think that COVID-19 vaccine development kicked off when the pandemic did. In reality, scientists had spent years building vaccine technologies that could be quickly adapted to emerging viral threats — sometimes known as 'Disease X'.

Thanks to funding bodies like the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness (CEPI), researchers at Oxford University had been working on a vaccine that could be quickly tweaked to target COVID-19.

The technology involves using a harmless common cold virus (that infects chimpanzees) and engineering it to carry proteins of other viruses you want to protect against.

The research meant that as soon as the genetic sequence of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) became available, the Oxford team was able to use the virus's genetic blueprint to modify their vaccine and begin testing it in clinical trials.

Similarly, development of a different vaccine approach, using mRNA technology — used in both Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID-19 vaccines — allowed researchers to work much faster than if they had relied on traditional vaccine methods, such as using weakened or inactivated parts of the virus.

Like the Oxford vaccine, the mRNA vaccines could be made fast because they only required the genetic sequence of SARS-CoV-2, and not a sample of the actual virus.

Vaccine research costs money — a lot of money — and often this can be difficult to secure.

Less so in a pandemic, it turns out, and in the face of widespread social and economic devastation.

Thanks to billions of dollars from governments, the private sector, and funding bodies like CEPI, researchers had access to immediate and substantial funding for COVID-19 vaccines.

This meant multiple clinical trials were launched quickly, and pharmaceutical companies were able to manufacture and stockpile vaccines before they even knew if they were effective.

In normal circumstances, drug companies never hedge their bets like this — it would be too costly if their vaccine failed and the doses had to be scrapped.

But in a pandemic, having the right infrastructure in place and vaccine doses ready to go is critical, so governments assumed bigger financial risks.

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Thanks for your comments, information and for the link.

All of which emphasized my point 'why haven't the Australian national and state medical experts made all of these points again and again to strongly reduce the fears of 'can't be good, because developed too quickly!

If the vaccine works, those who have it will be safe from those who don't.

Only those who don't have it will be able to become infected, so why are those who have had it or plan to have it complaining about those who don't intend to have it?


Why do you write, "it is better for all of us", when obviously it is not, individuals who want to be vaccinated will accept it, thousands of people will not accept it, and being annoyed or being in disgrace is inefficacious.
Australian National, State and International 'experts' will never reduce the factor of fear in people who are too smart to be conned into accepting an injection of a substance of which the long-term effects are unknown. 


Once anti-vaxxers find out there is a coronavirus vaccine... : memes

Stop all the benefits  of the anti vaxxers I say and when they get covid  and they will, let them sell whatever they own to pay their hospital bill. Bury them in the pauper grave yard.


Sorry but I don't agree. I didn't suggest people should be forced to have the vaccine and I didn't suggest those who don't want the vaccine should be treated with disdain or whatever.

Further, you have a right to your opinion and I have my right to have an opinion the subject and I have a right to encourage folks to have the vaccine.

Further, I would like to think that the folks sitting on the bus, in the restaurant, on the aircraft and not going to spread their positive aerosol to me and then I pass it to my kids.

This virus and pandemic are very dangerous and I'll push for anything that helps, even a little, to keep me, my family, my friends and colleagues and society safe from the virus and it's destruction which has brought dreadful/painful death to several million folks across the world and at the same time massive grief to their families. 


I haven't heard anyone, except perhaps the politicians, declare that the vaccines give immunity. Rather, they don't. We've already had at least one case in recent days of a person contracting the virus after being vaccinated. Also, the drug companies told us very early that the vaccines had relatively short lives, or efficacy. Most seem to be 6 months. At that time a booster is required. 

These vaccines were authorised very quickly and with limited testing, for emergency use. I've read several reports from what seemed to be reputable organisations that they were tested on mainly young and healthy individuals. I'm not aware that any testing was done on the elderly.

Then of course, one of these so-called safe vaccines, astrazeneca, was related to clotting. Ah! But that was only in young people. It was declared safe for the over 50's. Wasn't it just the end of last week 5 cases of clotting related to Astrazeneca occured. And guess what? They were all aged over 50.

So be safe in the knowledge that your fellow travellers have been vaccinated and cannot transmit the virus. Good luck 

I think Australia needs to be open to the work by the end of next summer, those that don't have the vaccine have to take the risk upon themselves.

It is easy when you are not a high risk person to say the vaccines have little risk, however the article fails to mention that in the best interests of society, the testing was limited to specific cohorts and excluded others, which is where the problem arises.  Forcing over 50s to have the Astra Zeneca vaccine, just because we have bought a lot of it, rather than the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, which uses mRNA technology and has better efficacy and less risk is very disappointing and may be some of the reason why people are resisting.  It is a bit like when people say "you've had a good innings, you should be okay with moving on".  Shows they don't understand some of us are healthy and don't want to take on additional risks that are unknown. 

If you don't think bureaucrats are making decisions without considering the implications, look at the Ruby Princess, Hotel Quarantine issues, vaccine distribution issues and the host of other stuff-ups.  Service NSW has a COVID-Tracing app, but our NSW Hospitals don't use it.  We have a vaccine booking system that recognizes few conditions and just recommends the AZ for everyone (sort of like if you only have a hammer, every problem looks like  nail).

Anybody who thinks there is no precedent has obviously forgotten the days of TB, the Hong Kong Flu, Cholera, the Spanish Flu, the Plague in China and India in the 50s, HIV/AIDS, the Hepatitis C virus, the Asian/Avian Flu in 1957-8, the H1N1 Swine Flue Pandemic, Ebola and the Zika Virus.  Surprisingly many of the lessons we learnt during these outbreaks seem to have been forgotten.  The Quarantine Station at North Head was established in 1835, to quarantine new arrivals and prevent the introduction of infectious diseases into Sydney and Australia.  Seems we have forgotten about this type of control and as more people have been able to move faster and carry viruses, we have seen the spread accelerate.  But we have proof this can be managed.

The reason I am high risk is due to the environments I worked in when I was young, not due to lifestyle choices, but risks we did not know about until many years later.  I've read in detail the AZ testing and the Pfizer testing along with numerous others and feel for those who don't have access, but are being pushed to make decisions on a lot of unknowns.

I'll keep social distancing, wearing masks, frequently sanitizing and washing my hands, and when there is accurate data and a log of testing records that prove the safety of the readily available vaccine, I'll consider it.  Until then, I would be prepared to try the Pfizer vaccine, but as it is reserved for others, I'll choose to wait.  I've had my flu vaccine and accept the risks.  I've been around for many years in all types of environments, where I've lived through a host of situations, so I'm comfortable I can get through this.



In reply to you Oz James70  we are 76 and 79.

Both husband [with Leukemia] and I have a risk, husband has been since this started and has hardly been out.  Relatives in the UK too, the ones that are having this head ache have been given the Astra Zeneca!  With a reaction for a few days then it eases off.   In fact in the UK they are giving people with sensitives the Astra Zeneca for that reason. [as against the Pfizer] Yes we have both had our flu vaccine this year with in the last five weeks.

 Husband has his injection on 18th of this month and me the week after.




ps:  husband has reminded me he has also had Tetanus, Schistosomiasis [Bilharzia] and Malaria if that is not enough.  It is a wonder any bug would want to come near him!  LOL



very well put OzJames 70. And don't forget that safe medication, Thalidomide. 

Celia should read the reports that state no Covid-19 vaccine is considered safe for those with immuno-suppressant disorders ot those taking immuno-suppressant medications.

I should state, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, although I never take the flu shot. Haven't had a cold or flu since the early '80's so can't see the need

I just think more research over a longer period is required for the Covid=19 vaccines

Three doctors have told my husband to go ahead ArJay he needs the protection.  One of them is the blood specialist  [haematologist].

Well we could do the research, invent a vaccine then wait 10 years before using it. A silly proposition.

The bottom line - the only final proof is doing vaccinations and watching for re-actions. 

OzJames70, well written, and of all the viruses and diseases you listed, there is yet to be vaccines produced which will wipe out any one or all of them.

Al, what you wrote is exactly what is happening, everyone who has had the vaccine are part of a world-wide Test Programme, it was rushed into production to appease the factor of fear among the people 'masses'.
2003 SARS epi/pandemic, the present Covid-19 situation is not very different to the last virus outbreak, too many people must have short memories if believing the current virus will wipe out most of the human race.


US firm Moderna has done a deal with the Australian government to provide 25 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine to the nation. Health Minister Greg Hunt confirmed the deal on Thursday morning, he also announced the government was about to begin discussions with the private sector to produce mRNA vaccines, like Pfizer and Moderna's, in Australia.

Moderna said it would provide 25 million doses of their mRNA vaccine, with 10 million of those doses, effective against what they labelled the "ancestral strain" of COVID-19, to arrive in 2021. The remaining 15 million doses would arrive in 2022.

AstraZeneca - first dose done and dusted, so far, so good. :)

Second dose to come...can't wait.

I'm a traveller and miss not going abroad. The fact that I can soon go to New Zealand, feeling confident on a plane...still wearing my mask and taking voluntary precautions...makes me happy !!!

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DARWIN, AUSTRALIA - MAY 15: In this handout provided by the Australian Department of Defence, expatriates collect luggage from their Delhi flight after arriving at RAAF Base Darwin on May 15, 2021 in Darwin, Australia. The arrival from New Delhi is the first repatriation flight for Australians who have been stranded in India following the lifting of the federal government's ban on flight arrivals from India as the country continues to battle a massive COVID-19 outbreak. Passengers on the flight will do mandatory quarantine at the Howard Springs facility for 14 days before being able to travel on to their home states. (Photo by LAC Stewart Gould/Australian Department of Defence via Getty Images)© Getty DARWIN, AUSTRALIA - MAY 15: In this handout provided by the Australian Department of Defence, expatriates collect luggage from their Delhi flight after arriving at RAAF Base Darwin on May 15, 2021 in Darwin, Australia. The arrival from New Delhi is the first repatriation flight for Australians who have been stranded in India following the lifting of the federal government's ban on flight arrivals from India as the country continues to battle a massive COVID-19 outbreak. Passengers on the flight will do mandatory quarantine at the Howard Springs facility for 14 days before being able to travel on to their home states. (Photo by LAC Stewart Gould/Australian Department of Defence via Getty Images)

A passenger on a repatriation flight from India that landed in Darwin on Saturday has tested positive for COVID-19.

NT Health says the passenger is in quarantine at the Howard Springs facility on the outskirts of Darwin.

The flight was the first to land in Australia from the COVID-ravaged country since the federal government implemented a travel ban — and tightened pre-departure testing measures — several weeks ago. 

NT health authorities have said the measures are required to keep cases at the facility at a manageable level, warning they could consider slowing or again pausing repatriation flights if the caseload rose higher than a target cap of 50 cases. 

Acting Chief Health Officer Charles Pain this morning suggested other passengers from the flight were undergoing further testing, but that the man in quarantine in Darwin was the only confirmed case so far.

"I have news this morning that probably only one — they're still subject to further testing — but only one person has tested positive in that group," he said.

"So the testing that was done in India has clearly been effective and has had the effect that we intended, which was that people wouldn't come on the flights if they were positive."

About half of the 150 passengers intending to board the plane were turned away after either testing positive or being deemed close contacts of positive cases.

Those left behind in Delhi have since urged authorities to reconsider their screening processes after the ABC revealed at least three of the rejected passengers have since tested negative to COVID-19.

Dr Pain acknowledged those people were disappointed and warned more people could return negative tests upon further screening.

"It's expected that they will re-join the testing queue or the queue to get on those flights as soon as possible," he said.

"It's expected that some of those people who tested positive will return negative tests.

"That's the way it works, I'm afraid. We welcome those people when they come on future flights."



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