So difficult as what young kid wants his/her parents and grandparents telling them what to do.

If only we could lock them up until they grow out of it lol but the absolute main thing is teaching them about contraception but trouble is there is so much controversy about promiscurity because of contraception!

At the end of the day in my opinion is that no babies start out from very young experiences. It is SO hard to teach first loves are not necessarily by a long stretch, the one that is meant to be forever.

I think boys have to be VERY careful because young girls today are sucked in by the promise of a baby bonus and can easily get pregnant. It sure does take two to tango but the great thing today is if the boys are very careful then they cannot be sucked into paying for babies not theirs for life.

As parents and grandparents we can only say what we feel needs to be said to the young folk and hope they listen but they seem to do just what they want anyway as correcting kids these days has to be done so softly it often falls on deaf ears but poor Mum and Dad and often Grandparents have to pick up the pieces when things "go pearshape"

All the best Moggy - it ain't easy. Sorry not much help.

Phyl.

Thank you so much for your understanding Phyl. You are right, teens of today seem to have much more control than when we were young. At 13 or 14 if you don't like the rules at home, you leave. It is as simple as that. Handouts form the government etc. That is why we want to tread very carefully. It is just such a shock for a boy 13 to have these intense feelings and to alienate himself from the rest of the family. He has fantastic parents who are devastated at the moment. And bye the way, I have just learnt the girl is 15. I just wish her mother would have a serious talk with her, but from what I can understand she could give a fig.

I just hope things cool off a bit now she is attending a different school.

Moggy.

I don't have children let alone grandchildren, but I must say it amazes me the freedom that very young teens seem to have these days, and the self-importance they feel. No way in the world would my parents,or those of any of my school friends, have let me entertain the thought of having a boyfriend at 13.Nor at 16 for that matter as I was still at school.I wasn't allowed to see anyone till I left school and got a job, then I was considered an adult.

What goes on these days? Does the boy have his own phone? Take it away. Do not let him contact her on the internet.Make him do homework and chores instead.He can hang around with girls when he has a job and is an adult.What has gone wrong with society when parents just can't forbid a CHILD of 13 from doing something they don't want him to do. My brothers kids would never have gottenaway with this sort of behaviour.

Take away his phone, internet access and don't give him any money.Ground him totally.

GEEZ!! He's a LITTLE KID!!!

(Eyes roll around with shock)

I agree with Phyl here--kids are so much different these days--thank God I don't have any to worry about now--I would find it so hard--as they are a different breed these days and NOT helped by the lack of discipline allowed to be given either--I really feel for good parents these days it really must be so very hard--I have always found it a good measure to look at the Mother of a girl--for that is likey what she will also turn out to be like--as that is what she grows up seeing. So many girls these days as Phyl says just see the Baby bonus--and they will try and trap any young bloke--had it happen to a freind of mine a few years ago---Trouble is when these hormones take over--very hard to be on watch 24 hours--I guess all they can do is warn him of the dangers both health wise etc---let us know how is all goes.



PS--Also Life line or such--look in the front of the white pages--sometimes there can be help at hand there--and you may get some good advice from peope that handle this type of thing all the time.--Hope that helps.