Morrison wants to open borders

Prime Minister hits back at premiers over roadmap out of pandemic.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/iraan-texas-coronavirus-outbreak-covid-19-icu-beds-hospital-deaths-usa-news/fd72f9b4-2766-4da7-a099-2cecd7347f4d


I see many of our states and territories implementing lockdowns, isolation, and quarantine and with great success at keeping numbers low.

The PM wants to open up the whole country and spread the damn virus further. No matter whether vaccinated or not, that will spread it faster than it is now. (increase as much as 25% they say (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/24/ending-lockdowns-with-80-vaccinated-could-cause-25000-australian-deaths-new-modelling-suggests?utm_term=2b72d1f21f1c6d7e99933cbcb24b37ca&utm_campaign=AustralianPolitics&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=aupolitics_email.)  We are dealing with a resilient viral strain that is ignoring the vaccines many have had. When the virus over-rides the vaccine, then all borders should be slammed shut! NO ONE in or out whether by vehicles, by boat, by plane or by walking. At least some states show respect to their people and keep the numbers low to protect them. Every time there is an outbreak, it is always from another state or country.

Perhaps if the Prime Minister listened to the people and actually learned to read, he may learn to keep his big mouth shut. He is losing favour in many towns and areas now because he has failed Australia and its people.

This is what happens when idiots like Morrison are in a hurry to let loose.

What happens in a town when coronavirus is allowed to run rampant?

https://www.9news.com.au/world/iraan-texas-coronavirus-outbreak-covid-19-icu-beds-hospital-deaths-usa-news/fd72f9b4-2766-4da7-a099-2cecd7347f4d

 

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If you have your vaccine, you have nothing to fear, so go ahead and show us all how brave you can be or Scotty may very well get madder than mad. Vote for Scotty!!!

 

Once again you prove to be stuck in a rut and not looking outside of your narrow views.

Even YLC has it posted now. So read it and actually may learn something. There is life and people outside of your rut.

https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/health/covid19/warning-of-mass-fatalities-if-australia-opens-before-90-per-cent-vaccinated/

 

This government is in power because the older generation  slavishly votes conservative  election after election because the Murdoch media brainwashes them, every benefit they enjoy has been given by past Labor governments and every benefit they`ve lost has been taken by conservative governments

YLC posted an article....so what Beemee?

Did they say they agreed or disagreed?

They are asking readers for their opinion.

Comprehension certainly wasn't your strong point at school!!!

Spot on Beemee.  When you focus on money not people, as Morrison is doing, deaths from Covid19 become relatively meaningless - collateral damage, as the Armed Services say.  Guess whose in charge right now? A General, no less.  Until we achieve vaccination rates above 90% including children, extreme caution is required when talking about "opening up" and removing restrictions.  All Morrison cares about is being reelected in the general election which must be held before May next year, so the standover tactics with the States will appeal to certain sections of the community but not, I suspect to those in the most effected communities in NSW or to those States smart enough to continue to keep their populations free of Covid19.

I totally agree.

Morrison ordered the wrong vaccine to start with, like our NBN, went for the cheaper option no doubt. Didn't bother about following up with Pfizer when he became aware, as we all did, of the associated problems with AZ and blood clots. Good enough for the oldies though. Botched the rollout and then passed the responsibility over to the Armed Services. Wouldn't listen to the states or the experts that medi-hotels weren't the best option for quarantine despite the fact that people like Lindsay Fox and Twiggy Forrest offered to set up and manage similar facilities to Howard Springs. In fact it was Twiggy Forrest who secured extra PPE for our frontline workers last year when they were in desperate need, not our PM. Now we find out that, or rather have it confirmed, that the Federal Government's Dept of Ag was largely to blame for the Ruby Princess debacle. He wouldn't even allow his top staffers to give evidence at the enquiry? A lot of people know why. Despite using the old fallback of 'look at the debt we inherited from Labor post GFC, last year they threw money to the wind without a decent plan in place, with JobKeeper and JobSeeker. Multi-million companies getting JK. Long-term unemployed young, fit people receiving JS. Now he wants to open those borders. Counting down to election, don't worry about how many will develop Covid and die, or long Covid. Don't worry about the burnt out of health workers trying to deal with the fallout. The man is a dolt.

Well said and on point.

What a joke from Scomo ... he's currently holed up living with his best mate in The Lodge.

The odd couple: Treasurer Josh Frydenberg moves in to The Lodge with Scott Morrison

Morrison made a few members of his cabinet envious when he joked about the exclusive bubble within the Canberra Bubble, where the pair have been passing the time by playing pool.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/strewth/the-odd-couple/news-story/742ad796c0f2e9adefe974f0cea7abac

Morrison is interpreting the Docherty Institute's modelling into easing the lockdown in a way that suits him and his political objective of re-election. He talks about 70-80% of eligible people having been fully vaccinated but refuses to include children under the age of 16 in that number. There is also a huge difference in actual numbers between 70% and 80% of the population but since he is always vague about things we can't expect to be precise on anything. He will continue to put his own political future front and foremost in his considerations.

The actual explanation given of the modelling is hedged by a number of condition, as academic do, in attempt to cover all bases. Slomo is picking the one that suits him and ignoring the rest and he is being supported by Gladys in this.

One of the criteria on opening up should be the number of cases that have not been tracked, traced and isolated or quarantined without having been out in the community spreading the virus. If that is not taken into account and the lockdowns and restrictions lifted then all hell can cut loose and our health system overwhelmed.  

Things might work out OK but I wouldn't bet on it but I always am inclined to the belief that it is better to be safe than sorry. Will Slomo be sorry? Not if he is re-elected he won't he will take that as God's work.

Exactly Tom Tank, well said.

 

Don't shoot the messenger on this as it is just opinion - I don't trust Scomo at all. So on that basis, I would not put it past him to have in some way instigated this truckie blockade. All for his own ends.

 

Virus data tracker service COVIDLive projects, on current rates, Australia will hit its 70 per cent target within 69 days (by November 1 or thereabouts) and 80 per cent in 87 days (November 19). Things might work out ok and deaths limited to 16 in first six months after opening as predicted in Morrison's plans ... other academics identify the qualifications in Doherty model are very different and the deaths could be a thousand times greater if no public health interventions. Makes for some interesting choices in months ahead as no putting genie back in the bottle.  Hopefully the 11 million unvaccinated (not to mention 5-15% of vaccinated) are feeling lucky.

This comes from a friend and its on the Web too. But too many here boohoo anything that isn't in line with their values and beliefs, or in this case, the particular election body they prefer.

Australia is currently faced with one of the greatest crises in contemporary history.
  Never have we seen such an obvious disregard for human life as we are witnessing now: Suspect information parroted by our elected members, their advisors and their appointees, Advisors and appointees with little to know relevant experience, or worse, experience that leaves serious questions about their independence from foreign influence, A Prime Minister and State Premiers (Daniel Andrews (VIC), Annastacia Palaszczuk(QLD), Andrew Barr (ACT), Gladys Berejiklian (NSW), Michael Gunner (NT), Peter Gutwein(TAS), Steven Marshall (SA), Mark McGowan (WA)) guilty of braking their Constitutional obligation to you by creating a totalitarian 'National Cabinet' making decisions for you quietly, confidentially and without full accountability, The enforcement of questionable medical practices and procedures that is not only prohibited in our Constitution but many other laws protecting our citizens, And if this is not enough, the direction that our children must now be subjected to their unsubstantiated ‘evidence’.   Australia, we have been warning you, and it’s now coming to a head.

As you may have heard, on the 31st August, the nation’s truck drivers may be blockading our borders potentially for a few weeks, in protest to the current situation.

If this happens, you may wish to stock up on non-perishables, water, fuel and the like.

This will be tough for some, so we ask all to please keep an eye out for those in your neighbourhood, and let’s help each other through the difficult situation our elected persons and their bureaucrats have created.

 

I have a friend who believes all that rot too, tyrannical governments etc, even said not to fill out the Census form as just another way the govt gets your info and not for the best, cannot understand why anyone would believe in this rubbish.

interesting to see reports of emerging food shortages in the UK following supply chain disruptions with 13,000 fewer foreign truckies, local truckies being "pinged" and restrictions hampering training of new drivers.

The only thing that I agree with in your latest post is the third line - Australia is currently faced with one of the greatest crises in contemporary history.
The rest seems to be a rant worthy of most anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists!

I don't believe a single word from the Government. They are too sneaky and putting through laws that haven't have OUR vote. So I go by my gut. I listen to what it is telling me and although I had no idea specifically that this truckie blockade was going to happen, I was warned via my gut that something is coming, and when I went shopping, I bought way more than I needed.

My husband no longer questions my gut feeling, as it has saved him at work more than once. I did give some warning here, told to watch what is coming, I just hope many listened. I may not know title and date, but when I get the alarm bells, I act fairly quickly. Its never steered me wrong yet.

But heed this, this is not the only thing happening, more is to come and will affect us all.

To Buggsie, this is not from an anti vaxxer or a conspiracy theorist, it comes from an ex Senator.

I don't have any truck with anti vaxxers, they are a stupid lot! They jump all over the place in their decisions and have done no research of their own.

States want to maintain control over the hospitals and quarantine numbers at same time make sure they get re elected..Those who want  to blame only Morrison for any problems should look a bit further then their political bias nose .. No one has a road map for this , no other country is doing any better where you have a so called National Cabinet made up of 9 politicians all with their own agenda..what else did we expect.??
Having family living in other countries,I can tell you, rather be in AUS.then any other. So stop your complaining and get on with it. Or just vote Albo in next time and all will be fixed

I agree wholeheartedly.  Too much constant complaining and no country has a quick fix for this.

Oh yes (said with tongue in cheek) the Chinese have supposedly found a cure and now have zero cases.

Could be but I am suspect - would you create something to gain dominion over others and not have a fix for what you created?

I wonder how the member living in Vietnam (who last year was posting about how well they were faring in the pandemic) is faring now with excess of 10,000 covid cases per day and deaths to date around 8,000. 

Clearly yourlifechoices has joined the disinformation spreaders. It is sad to see you fall from being a reasonably reliable source of factual and beneficial information to the damaging and false verbiage that helps nobody and misleads any who would believe you.

Scomo is not opening the country to infection, he has given clear understanding that following well founded scientifically valid modelling by the Doherty Institute that a 70 - 80% vaccination level is sufficient to confer herd immunity and allow opening of the major movement controls, and allow the thousands of businesses and wage earners to get on with saving their enterprises and providing for their families. But no, you would rather promote the untruth that you project in this article. You stand condemned.

This article is not from YourLifeChoices.

Is is just an opinion piece from a contributor/subscriber, Beemee.

Yes Froggie I am aware but some seem to think I am not. But it was to bring it to the attention of others because if I didn't, all hell breaks loose with some saying I am crazy, where did you get that from, blah blah blah,

I was just replying to Observer who thought that you were YourLifeChoices and was getting stuck into them because he didn't agree with you.

(Obviously a Scummo supporter too, so not a good thinker ;-) )

The question is Slomo cherry picking from Doherty's assessment. Doherty has said that if the cases are greater than 30 than infections and deaths will rise and potentially could rise significantly. Slomo has totally ignored that and just keeps pushing his take on it. He is probably working on the basis that if you repeat a statement often enough, regardless of the accuracy of the statement, people will believe you. 

They are getting their heads together to plan how to steal and control our super, how to put in place more roadblocks to stop people getting their entitled pensions and how to make us spend so we don't leave anything after our deaths, I bet they will end up having a way to make us die the day after we run out of money, it has started with working till 70 and dropping dead from exhaustion.

They will make us pay for any unused bedrooms in our house, by increasing rates and taxes, so we downsize at a big cost so their real estate mates can make millions.  No way, we vote, send a letter to all your local MP's.

 

Who is?

 

 

That's sad. I haven't heard of taxes on extra bedrooms in a home, but with this Government I wouldn't put anything past them. They are for giving to help and then like Indian givers, ask for it back. The damn businesses are the ones who were given Jobkeeper should be paying it back as they made a profit over that period. Leave all the others alone who really are in need of that financial help.

If old Meg Thatcher can wipe out the English people's super the short time she was in power, you can bet this lot have her plan tucked away just waiting to release it.

Why should any one of us spend our Super now and leave nothing for the retirement? Most people will not have enough enough to last them in the years they have left, it will likely be woefully short.

When we get to that 70-80% why should the majority have to be stuck with no freedoms and no travel when the stupid 20 -30% won't get the jab why should the government care when the jabs are free,. we all have choices in life if you do not what the jabs then miss out on all the things we will be able to do when we get to those figures

Thank goodness the majority of Australians are able to think, and look at both sides of reality and so we have the election and excellent leaders like our PM. And it accounts for why we are seeing these excellent strategies and policies that will lead us to herd immunity in these dangerous times.  Australia has been well led, ever since the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd fiasco passed into the sands of time. And ALP have been in control for only a quarter of the years since 1945. Australian are are not stupid!

What seems to be overlooked is that sloppy Wuhan research into a risky topic has been ignored by the very experts Scomo has to rely upon to get us out of the mess. Facts..France built the Wuhan lab...USA provided funding for the research ,as acknowledged by the researchers in their published journal papers...Our CSIRO trained Wuhan researchers. None of these boffins ,except for Fauci, appears to have realised that Wuhan was playing with fire. So sloppy research appears to have triggered a tragedy not Scomo. Very easy to blame our pollies. How about our short sighted scientists obsessed with chasing journal recognition fessing up?

 

Yep Beamo, the blockades have begun. Scotty is determined we get no bread. This morning the wife sent me to Brumby's to get a loaf or two and as I approached the high street was stopped by a blockade.

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when I enquired as to why this is happening, was told Scotty is determined we shall all learn to make our own bread. Any more warnings you can pass out Beamo?

 

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