Is there life after redundancy?

Q. Jane

I am 57 and have just been made redundant. Thankfully due to a redundancy payout, some savings and superannuation, my financial position isn’t as bad as some who find themselves in the same position. However, I don’t know where to turn for help. I have found my dealings with Centrelink to be less than satisfactory and, instead of finding the support I need to get me back in to the work force, I just feel very depressed.

This happened about four weeks ago and already I feel myself slipping into despair. Despite having held a senior management role for many years, dealing with the different Centrelink agencies, being passed from pillar to post and getting the feeling that no-one is really interested in what I am saying, is all becoming too much for me to take. I understand that because of the money I have I may not be entitled to any benefits, but surely there should be some support for people in my position? I have also considered starting my own consultancy business but apparently I can’t get any assistance through the New Enterprise Incentive Scheme (NEIS). I now have no job, no income, no prospects and nowhere to turn!

At the moment I can’t even consider looking for another job as my confidence has taken a real blow; if I can’t deal with Centrelink, am I a suitable person to be employed in senior role?  Perhaps I’m too old to continue in my previous field at such a level? Where do I go for help?

A. Jane, what you are feeling is perfectly understandable and has obviously been exasperated by your unsatisfactory dealings with Centrelink.  At 57 you would normally be eligible for Newstart Allowance while you look for another job, however, there are asset and income limits which you may exceed. You can view the income and asset limits on the Centrelink website and this may give you an idea of how far from receiving this benefit you are. If you are not eligible to receive any benefit, then you will not be able to access other services such as Jobskills or NEIS. While this may seem harsh when you exceed these limits, there has to be a cut-off at some point.

The next step is to consider the available funds you have and how best to manage these. While you may have a good understanding of budgeting, it would be worthwhile making an appointment to see an independent financial advisor to discuss the best way to structure your finances. Such an advisor may also be able to advise you on how to manage your money in a way that makes Centrelink benefits accessible. If you do not have a preferred financial advisor, you can find details of one in your area by visiting the website of the Financial Planning Association of Australia. You may also wish to read the following article, 50 questions you can ask a financial advisor, which may help you make the right choice of advisor. If you do not wish to pay to see a financial advisor, you can make an appointment with a Centrelink Financial Information Services officer (FIS). While a FIS officer cannot give financial advice, you can obtain general financial information which may be of use. You can make an appointment by calling 13 2300.

You may wish to take the time to consider your next career move. At 57 it’s easy to think that no one will want to employ you, but your experience is invaluable to many employers. You may wish to think about whether going back into the same field is what you want to do, if you wish to continue working full-time and, as you mentioned, whether starting your own business is the best course of action.  A career counsellor can help you work through your core skills, what you wish to achieve from a career and pathways to getting the job you want. The Career Development Council of Australia will be able to recommend a counsellor in your area who can assist with your career decisions and your next career move. You may also wish to read about strategies and resources for older workers in this chapter of Kaye’s book What Next – Your career change companion

Last, but by no means least, is your own mental wellbeing. Hopefully by working through the above stages, you will start to feel more positive about where you are in life and what you can achieve. However, if you are unable to tackle these steps through total despair, then a trip to your GP is in order. You have been dealt a blow, one which many people liken to a bereavement, and you may need a little help to process this. Your GP can suggest some strategies, one of which may be counselling. Under the Federal Government’s Mental Health Plan, you can access 12 sessions through Medicare. Your GP will need to complete a mental health questionnaire before you can access such services. If, in the interim, you need to speak to someone, I would suggest getting in touch with beyondblue.  This organisation can provide information and support until such time as you can arrange something more suited to you individually.

Jane, I hope you can evaluate your position and realise that although your redundancy came as a blow, there are positives and you may now have the opportunity to get even more satisfaction from your chosen career path.

 

 

 

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How can any senior workers expect the Age Discrimation Laws to apply if the Federal Government is not bound by them.   Am I to presume that the lack of staff over 50 at Centerlink Offices means that nobody over 50 ever applies?  Indeed, am I to presume the lack of staff over 40 in the Immigration Department means the same thing.  Just taking this a step further, you have got to wonder why so few Australian born citizens are able to get a position in the Immigration Dept.  Workers in the 50 to 65 year old bracket make up over 1/3 of the workforce, but they do not appear to come anywhere this proportion in the Commonwealth Public Service.  In fact, the only Government positions that appear to have at least a third senior representation is the Elected MPs' who created the unenforced laws.  Sydney Water has been having large numbers of redundancy payouts to employees (mostly over 50) since 2003, but has only had a noticeable drop in staff levels in 2010.  I cannot quote definate fact, but I have been advised that the average age of staff has reduced by over 5 years since 2000.  While I am at it, can somebody explain why we have not had the benefit of a major dam construction since Warragamba was finished in 1960 & Sydney Water had nearly 14,000 staff in 1980 as against just under 4,000 in the year 2,000 & in the same period the Water rates have quadrupled?

I have always found the local politicians office very helpful in getting info and some direction. They can only give you one of two answers, but they know you will be voting for them (or not) every now and then.

Centrelink Pty Ltd are not forthcoming with information that could be useful and relevant to us. their clients, at least that has been my experience since 2004.

Nor do they read the forms and/or letters that are sent - hence do not act on queries about various aspects - I have now requested  a Health Care Card 3 times with no response!!

The Govt expects us to work until we drop, so it seems, with later retirement ages for men and women being phased in - yet there are so few jobs available to us nowadays once we reach our late 40s or 50s! So what are we all meant to be doing???

Hi Jane.  First of all, stop thinking about benefits from Centrelink and start thinking positively about how good you are and have been in your last job.  Get onto the computer and have a look at the job market under Seek.com or whatever it is these days.  Send a  million personal letters and resumes to all suitable jobs and sit back and wait for the answers.  Remember- necessity is the mother of invention and there is nothing wrong with a little pf hunger to send you back in there fighting.  Give it a go and you will see what I mean.  Never allow yourself to think you are less than capable.  I am 66 years old and am fully employed as a bookkeeper.  I was made redundent when I was 59 and I never thought that I wouldn't be able to get a job.  Confidence in one's abilities is all you need and the rest falls into place.  One agency said that my age group was the most sought after.  That gave me even more confidence.

So, good luck Jane. We will be waiting for you to write again to tell us that you are once again employed!

 

 

In reply to INNES asking the question about future dams for Sydney, after the completion of Warragamba in 1960. In my early career with the water board, I was associated with people in Design Branch, of Met. Water Sewerage & Drainage Board, now known as Sydney Water, a corporation, who give all profits to the NSW Government. This was the bright idea of our now federal " Foreign Minister "namely Bob Carr, when he was NSW Premier. 

The people in the Design Branch, who I previously mentioned, were in the process of planning the future population growth & water usage of Sydney, the result was Sydney would have X millions of people, & require a dam to be built by the year 2000, which was to be situated on the Shoalhaven River, west of Batemens Bay, & called Welcome Reef. Then another dam would be required on the Colo River, north west of Sydney, to keep ahead of water requirements, this would have to be completed by the year 2030. Mr. Carr, in his wisdom, over ruled Design Branch Engineers, stated, Sydney would not require a new dam until 2050. The Desalination Plant, at Kurnell was supposed to take up the shortfall of water supply, it does not supply enough water, is costly to operate, & is situated in the wrong position of the System.       Robbo.

 

Thanks for that Robbo.  My point was more that in 1960, Sydney had a population of 2,134,000 whose water was supplied by 11 major dams & in 2010 was estimated to be 3,744,000, still served by the same number of dams.  The population of Sydney had grown to 2,667,000 by 1970, served by a Water Board employing approx., 12,500 people.  Because of fines etc. we are not using any more water than we were in 1970. Sydney Water now employs only 4,000 staff.  BUT our water rates have gone up roughly 600%.  Can somebody please explain.  While I am at it, why is Sydney Water a Corporation paying nearly $170 M to the Taxation Dept.  Sydney Water is a Public Service & should not be a Corporation.  With the revenue being generated by the Police Service, Land tax, Payroll Tax & a myriad of other so called user pays services, why have they not all been turned into Corporations & help to assist the people of Queensland etc. 

What have the dams to do with redundancy?

Chrissy, if you read all the thread before you asked you would see how the subject evolved.

Thanks 

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