Government’s carp solution criticised

Belgian, English and Australian scientists are calling on the Australian authorities to review their decision to introduce the carp herpes virus as a way to combat the common carp having colonised the country’s rivers.

In a letter published in the journal Science, they not only believe that this measure will be ineffective but that it also represents a risk to ecosystems.

On a global scale, the common carp (Cyprinus carpio) is one of the most important fish species in fish farming. Its annual production ranges between four and five million tonnes.

Initially introduced to Australia for production in fish farms, the species has gradually colonised the rivers to the point of dominating the indigenous species.

One of the methods proposed by the Australian government to reduce the number of carp is to release a virus which is deadly to this species. However, scientists note that data currently available on the carp’s biology, the pathogeny of the virus and the ecology of Australian rivers suggests that this tactic will not be effective and could even represent a risk to ecosystems.

Before the large-scale release of the Koi herpesvirus, which will be costly (the plan proposed has a budget of $18 million) and irreversible, assessments must be carried out on the virus’ actual capacity to sustainably reduce Australian carp populations living freely without harming the indigenous ecosystems.

The letter’s authors advocate for the introduction of limited testing to safely assess if the virus can effectively control carp populations without harming ecosystems.

Would you like to see more testing done before the Government releases the carp herpes virus? Are you worried about our domestic fish?

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I do NOT trust our scientists .. just look at the cane toad disaster.

The native fauna is at risk.

Suze I agree 100%. There are far too many examples of those types of blunders. The cane toad was introduced to eat the cane beatle but when these intelectual giants realised they could not jump they didnt bother to round them up.

Likewise that former adviser to PM Gillard wants to introduce Tasmanin Devils into Victoria as a method of controlling the fox numbers. 

Why not continue to use the carp for fertilizer same with those African mouth breeders.

Would you like to see more testing done before the Government releases the carp herpes virus? Are you worried about our domestic fish?""

 

Yes to both questions.   way too risky.

This might come as a surprise to lots of people. Consumer demand for the introduced river pest has been growing rapidly in Australia in recent years.The introduced species is sold domestically primarily for lawn fertiliser and bait products but it has long been one of the most popular table fish in Asia and Europe.

Last financial year, the Sydney Fish Market sold 83,000 kilograms of carp and it expects sales will continue to increase.

ABC

Dinner plate with fish and vegetables

Pic: Dietitians Assoc.of Australia.

 

 

Reagan, although I've never eaten carp in Australia, I have visited China and other asian countries where it is widely used and won't be surpried if given it on more than one occasion. The question the scientists should be asking is why carp became so prevalent only in recent years. Carp is a fish that thrives and multiplies in polluted waters. Does that mean that our waterways are more polluted than it was a few years ago? I think so.

Getting  rid of the carp  is one thing, but there are other things to consider  for example, unleashing a "blackwater event" which occurs when the death of large numbers of fish removes oxygen from waterways, in turn killing all the other fish in a system.

Bit of trivia here, Carp eggs, used for caviar are increasingly popular in the United States!

Banjo you're so right, thousands of Aussies might have unknowingly eaten it abroad. A Chinese friend told me once it's always better to order whole  fish, then you know what you're eating.

I do not trust the those that bring such into our environments it was said b4 look at the Cane Toad disaster and many others as well -- what if this took off and got into everything!

 

I know these Carp are a real pest but lets make sure first

“In Germany, carp is eaten at Christmas alongside the ham”.

….. but some experts worry if things go wrong, a "blackwater event" could wind up doing far more damage than the carp currently filling the waterways.

And, in that case, an opportunity could be provided for another equally invasive species to take the carp's place.

A blackwater event occurs when the death of large numbers of fish removes oxygen from waterways, in turn killing all the other fish in a system.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/fears-carp-herpes-virus-could-lead-to-blackwater-event/8663784

Sounds like a nightmare to me, damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

This is disgusting! Herpes will transmit to our other creatures. A better solution is encourage fishing instead. There are many people that eat carp.

No.  The herpes virus in question is very species specific.  Testing to date has found no transfer to any native species.

The extent of the carp infestation is so great that recreational fishing has no effect upon the populations and by the very nature of the creeks, streams and rivers that they have been identified in, commercial fishing is impractical.

I believe Barnaby Joyce  spoke a lot about "CARP" "CARP"

Carp in our waterways give me the horrors.

Can remember a few years ago, going down the bank of a river in north western NSW to go fishing. Water was low at the time and lots of very large carp were wriggling out of the water to eat the grass on the banks.

When you catch them, they are so slimy and they smell awful.

Agree that a huge amount of caution is needed before any action like that proposed above.

I agree RnR -- it is going to be a risk whatever they choose to do --

Cane Toads were NOT introduced by scientists, but by a cane farmer.

 

Do not know where you get your info from ???

"Cane toads built on successes in biological control, replaced pesticides like arsenic, pitch and copper, were supported by a published scientific paper, had international scientific peer review, were endorsed by Australia’s peak science body CSIRO"

https://theconversation.com/everyone-agreed-cane-toads-would-be-a-winner-for-australia-19881

To date, the testing of the Koi herpes virus has found no transfer across species and its' effect has been found to be very specific.

The carp infestation destroys the natural habitat for native species in any watercourse that they become established in.  They can cause a collapse of all native species in their stream.

A big problem with the release of the virus is that the mass die out could cause significant problems from the rotting carcases making the water course unsuitable for any other fauna.  To prevent this, as part of the virus release, there is intended to be manual removal of all dead koi before they can rot.  As I understand it, the practical difficulties that this presents is one reason why the program has not been implemented so far.

For those comparing it to the cane toad debacle, Australian scientists have learnt a lot from that episode and now extreme measures are taken to try and ensure that our country doesn't get caught again.  But one cannot stop some individual who can believe that they know better and release a worse pest.  Check the history of tilapia in our water courses and how that was intitiated.

RnR I just noticed this topic which interests me because as a young lad in London I was mad about angling and to catch a carp was considered quite a feat in those days and something that always eluded me. They were quite cautious and were suspicious of many baits that were cast out to them and they took a long time to swallow anything. There was actually a famous catch where a huge carp of around 50 or 60 pounds weight was caught which was a record at the time. That one ended up in an aquarium somewhere in England and was quite an attraction, however it did not adapt to captivity and did not survive for too long. I did catch one in the Nepean river in NSW though and it was slimy but for curiosity I kept it and took it home and cooked it! Sorry to say it was not too good and was full of small bones so I'm a bit surprised that it is popular in some countries. Give me a trout any day if we are talking about freshwater fish!!.Surprises me how they are pushing out native species here in Oz as they were rare in England then, and other species were not threatened.

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