An excellent question/topic, Mara.

My personal belief is that we are in many ways subtly constrained from uttering certain thoughts

through political correctness. Words such as racism or discrimination have become suspect through misuse and overuse in many areas. Who decides what is racist or discriminatory?

The Victorian Charter of Human Rights was brought in almost by stealth..even though the State Govt asserted there had been consultation with certain groups. I don't know one person who is aware of who those groups consisted of.

The first case under that legislation was thrown out. The person who was up on the charge had his reputation ruined as a result of the case.

The detail of the Charter is buried somewhere in the mountain of documents I suppose wherever those sorts of docs are held.

For all I know, some of the things I or anyone says , may contravene the Charter.

The Rudd govt was considering bringing in a national Charter based on the Victorian one. They decided in the end..they would not.

One thing for which I can at least be grateful to the Fed Govt.

Myth? Yes I'm beginning to think so.

http://www.humanrightscommission.vic.gov.au/human%20rights/the%20victorian%20charter%20of%20human%20rights%20and%20responsibilities/



People have the right to hold opinions without interference from the government or from other people. People have the right to seek out, receive and pass on information and ideas of all kinds whether orally, in writing, in print, as an artistic expression or in any other way of their choosing.



People have the right to assemble and meet peacefully, to freely associate with others and to form and join trade unions.



This sounds good. Now we can freely debate euthanasia amongst other issues I am too afraid to mention*

Afraid? that's silly! Read the Charter you dummy*

I hate to stuff up your euthoria Mara, but all State Laws are subjective

to the primacy of Federal Law. Regardless of any State Laws or Charters,

to discuss, read or publish anything on euthenasia, or whether the

holocaust ever took place, is already ILLEGAL, even in Victoria. If the

new filtering laws are passed, they will apply the same in Victoria as

anywhere else in Australia, regardless of any State Charter.

http://www.humanrightscommission.vic.gov.au/human%20rights/the%20victorian%20charter%20of%20human%20rights%20and%20responsibilities/



People have the right to hold opinions without interference from the government or from other people. People have the right to seek out, receive and pass on information and ideas of all kinds whether orally, in writing, in print, as an artistic expression or in any other way of their choosing.



People have the right to assemble and meet peacefully, to freely associate with others and to form and join trade unions.



This sounds good. Now we can freely debate euthanasia amongst other issues I am too afraid to mention*

Afraid? that's silly! Read the Charter you dummy*

Mara thanks for the link...Very heavy reading, so have bookmarked for reference.

PS.

Heard a brief reference on the news that the Govt is now shelving the internet filter program. Anyone else hear that?

Yes I did hear right.

The latest.

KEVIN Rudd has put another election promise on the backburner with his controversial internet filtering legislation set to be shelved until after the next election.



A spokeswoman for Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said yesterday the legislation would not be introduced next month's or the June sittings of parliament.



With parliament not sitting again until the last week of August, the laws are unlikely to be passed before the election.

[url=http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/rudd-retreats-on-passing-web-filter-legislation/story-e6frgakx-1225859630452]Source[/url]

Rudd is running scared! Tampering with the internet is not in the jurisdiction of the Government. Neither is tampering

with snail mail. OK, porn, etc; is disgusting and illegal,and the perpetrators are punished when caught, but, WHO IS QUALIFIED to say yay or nay on content of the internet? Holiday pic's with skimpy bikini's................newborn babes lying naked on a rug sent amongst families. Obviously we have many Ruddy problems.

I don't think he'll do anything unless other countries do it also.

He is very much a follower of other western countries ---soldiers to Iraq, Afghanistan...

to discuss, read or publish anything on euthenasia, or whether the

holocaust ever took place, is already ILLEGAL, even in Victoria



I have just been reading about the holocaust on an Australian web site.

Now I will have to hand myself in at the local police station and cop the consequences



:-/

I owe you an apology fwed. I honestly thought that you were deliberately

taking everything that I say, out of context & out of intent, simply because

I mistook you for a woman, when you first came on this site last December.

However, I now realise that you simply haven't got sufficient intellect to

read most of what is put on this site. Lack of intellect is a birthright &

not, in any way, your fault. For those who have just started reading what

you commented on, let me say that any reasonable person who has

read any of the earlier posts, on this subject, would know that I was

stating that it is already illegal to discuss etc any form of denial, of the

holocaust. Your comment about having to hand yourself in to the local

police, because you have broken a law, is simply inane & ridiculous.

I quoted from the Australian, originally, stating that no charges, for this

offence have ever been laid. That does not mean that the Law doesn't

exist.As a parellel, I might remind you that Attempted suicide, used to

be a capital offence in all States in Australia. But I don't remember

any cases where anybody was even charged, let alone hung for the offence.

Oh Innes, I think you are losing the plot. :roll:

Innes, you certainly do owe fwed an apology. You have no right to cast aspersions on the mans intellect simply because he disagrees with you or proves you wrong. It may well be illegal to encourage or print instructions to facilitate euthenasia......likewise it may (I have not confirmed) be illegal to say or publish anything that directly disputes that the Holocaust ever took place, but that is not what you said in your quote. Read your own quote again and I am sure you will see what I mean.

Fwed, if you keep picking up on every little mistake that Innes makes, you will not have much time left for anything else. We all make mistakes and for the sake of peace and quiet, it would be nice to let some "slip by" :zip:

Kfchugo, I don't have any objection to being corrected, when I am wrong

& I think I apologise when it occurs.

fwed quoted, & you suggested that I read my words again.



" to discuss, read or publish anything on euthenasia, or whether the

holocaust ever took place, is already ILLEGAL, even in Victoria".



Any reasonable person would read that I never said you couldn't read

about the Holocaust. It is quite clear that I stated "whether the Holocaust

ever took place" That clearly means question authenticity, not read about

the actual event.

You state that you have not comfirmed, so what is your version of why

Fredric Tobin was jailed for contempt?

This personal criticism & out of context missquoting comes from fwed every

time he follows up on any post I put on here. I have chosen to think that he

is short of brain rather than being deliberately personal & vindictive.

BTW You made referrence to when fwed proves me wrong. For my

edification, would you please quote me one single occasion, where fwed

has proved me wrong.

I am sorry kfchugo if what I post annoys some.

I have put up with innes sarcasm, insults and scaremongering and egotistical comments for some time.

He does come across as one that knows all and anybody who disagrees with him is usually called an idiot or insulted in some other way.

You may notice that he suggests that clay take his medicine for bipolar and that Korry walks a dog.

Pretty sarcastic and insulting stuff.



What I quoted him as saying in this thread was what he said and now he is trying to twist it around to say he meant something else.



When someone comes to a forum and states that Queenslanders do not own their own homes and that Peter Beattie changed the constitution by stealh to allow this, then I cannot have any respect for that person.

That is scaremongering.



innes states that there is no one child policy in China then tries to word it in some other way mentioning Australia's visa policy which is rubbish.

Innes is all about conspiracies and doom and gloom.