DOES THIS MAKE YOUR BLOOD BOIL?

The City News has been updated today, so for those who are interested, here is the article.

The cost of providing pensions to boomers and retirees is coming at the cost of an intergenerational war as younger people start to bridle at the economic weight of carrying Australia and its feted pensioners forward. ALEX DUNNIN beats the drum.

THE richest people in Australia are the baby boomers and retirees who collectively control the lion share of Australia’s wealth, real estate, super fund assets and share markets.
How ironic then it is that these same people who, after years of accumulating wealth on the back of sustained housing and investment booms and continually getting tax breaks, incentives and subsidies, have just won a review into their pension entitlements.
However, 10 of the 13 interest groups represented on the review panel, being aged care, pensioner and retiree lobbyists, means we hardly need to wait for the report or join the 11 city and regional centres public hearings roadshow to figure out that they’ll be recommending the $14,000 a year age pension is too low and that it needs to rise urgently.
If only younger people who no longer get free university education or health care, or who are locked out of the housing market by these investing boomers driving up home prices and causing the worst housing affordability crisis in living memory had this kind of political muscle.
But with two million age pensioners, the government had little choice, despite these age pensioners already receiving $26 billion in annual benefits, a figure that they are committed to lifting anyway following the Budget decision to relax the rules around how age pensions are indexed.
If you think these are tough words then it’s time you caught up with what’s happening in the blogosphere and what’s being written in newspaper letters to the editor pages because signs are emerging that young people are beginning to tire of all the handouts that seem to continually get thrown at the boomers and retirees.
Add in how generation X and Y are the ones who are now expected to make the economic and lifestyle sacrifices needed to fix the climate change mess left to them by their parents and forebears and it could reach a flashpoint.
However, the tension stepped up a notch when Prime Minister Kevin Rudd announced his plan to promote Asian languages in schools, causing a flurry of newspaper letter writers identifying themselves as pensioners to demand any language funding be instead immediately diverted to their pension cheques.
Given that the Budget surpluses that fund the post-60 superannuation tax breaks and that will fund the future pension increases are the direct result of our booming economic relationship with Asia, China and India, this is tantamount to a declaration of generational war.
But if it’s a problem now, it’s only going to get worse as the number of age pensioners doubles over the next 20 years while the number of working taxpayers they will be dependent on for their pension payments increases by only half.
And if young people feel ignored now, imagine how they’ll feel when they learn that this growing age pension expense is not only going to be a bigger drain on our national Budget but the requirement to lower national taxation rates so we can compete in a tougher global economy increasingly dominated by a low-taxing Asia means there will be even less government money available for education, health, housing and national infrastructure.
However, the pension problems of today’s retirees do have a silver lining. It shows young people why taking their superannuation and long-term retirement savings seriously is so important, unless we want to end up like today’s crop of struggling complaining pensioners.
Super might have just had its worst year on record but we must never forget that super and all the tax-breaks it offers will always be the best-possible structure for long-term saving. The sooner we climb on board that money train the richer and more powerful we will become, too.

Alex Dunnin is the director of research and editorial at the Rainmaker group.



An article by Alex Dunnin in the current issue of City News, a free paper in Canberra, has me so angry. Front page heading is "Do These People Make you Sick - they will if you are young and starting to realise the cost of providing ever increasing pensions to baby-boomers and retirees, the richest people in Australia who collectively control the lion's share of Australia's wealth. Alex Dunnin says an intergenerational war is emerging as younger workers start to bridle at the economic weight of carrying Australia's feted pensioners." This disgusting article is continued on page 13 under the heading "Why the young are getting cranky." You can google the complete article by going to Australian sites and type in CITY NEWS . I would like to see this publication inundated with responses, but I would also like to know what the participants of this site feel about it.

Alex Dunnin is the director of research and editorial at the Rainmaker group.

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and cant think of any way to reverse the trend.



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--Well I think it stems from the way they have tostay at school till they are far too old--(unless they need to be a Dr or such)--as I feel Uni is a bit of a bludge in a lot of cases--I say what was wrong with the way we did it --left school at 15 --younger in some cases--and went straight out and got a job--did Tech after work.

So many do a year of tearing around the place --overseas and all--this does NOT make for a good work ethic--many are now given a car--and a new one at that--and do not have to save and buy it themselves--as with many other things they are GIVEN---so they have no idea what it takes to earn this type of money and so have NO respect for the hard work it takes.



I ask WHY do you have to go to Uni if you just need to work in an office--or many other jobs other than a Dr etc ? I think it is the Governments way of saying that the unemployment is not as high as it really is.

[color=purple][size=4]kfchugo: "Ask anyone who collects for charities......its rarely the young who part with money".[/color]



[size=4]That sentence jumped out at me.. so true, but more importantly, says a lot in a nutshell.[/size][/size]

The majority of the young certainly are the ME ME ME generation, but it seems attitude is often learnt at school. Our daughter informed us that a teacher had told them not to compromise, decide on what you want to do and accept nothing less. We dissuaded her of that idea very quickly. However, maybe all these kids on the dole are just waiting for that dream job to land in their laps, you know the one, very little work, opportunities for overseas travel and lots of money, unfortunately for them Kevin Rudd already has that job. I don't hear the young ones complaining of the dole payment, unless it's to say it's not enough. If they can't or won't find work, make them do national service on the dole money that they get for nothing.

The majority of the young certainly are the ME ME ME generation, but it seems attitude is often learnt at school. Our daughter informed us that a teacher had told them not to compromise, decide on what you want to do and accept nothing less. We dissuaded her of that idea very quickly. However, maybe all these kids on the dole are just waiting for that dream job to land in their laps, you know the one, very little work, opportunities for overseas travel and lots of money, unfortunately for them Kevin Rudd already has that job. I don't hear the young ones complaining of the dole payment, unless it's to say it's not enough. If they can't or won't find work, make them do national service on the dole money that they get for nothing.





I couldn't agree more Jade regarding the National Service. Do them more good than harm, it should never have been stopped. Teach them some discipline and respect for others. My grandkids sit at home and wait to be waited on, their Mother starts work at 4.30am, home at 8.30am, back again at 2.30pm and home at anything from 5.30 to 7.30pm. Then she comes home and cooks tea and if its not what they want she gets told in no uncertain terms, what to do with it. I have told her "more fool you for taking it from them". Her reply, "Oh Mum, they swear at me and hit me" so I told her to get rid of them, does she listen NO. They are 18 and 22, does anyone else have problems like this? Am I being unreasonable.......I don't think so.

ceemgee, I feel for your daughter and it is an "all too common" story these days. I suspect that it is a "generational" phenomenon that we are at least partially responsible for. I know my folks went through the great depression of 1929 as youngsters and the WW1 and the Korean conflict. They KNEW what it was like to go without.....clothes, transport, even food.

They spoiled their kids and made sure we wanted for nothing and we have carried on that tradition. We tried to ensure that our kids had everything they wanted, a good education and the best possible start in life.......things that many of us were deprived of. Unfortunately, our largess has backfired on us......instead of getting kids off to a good start, we have trained them to RELY on us and more often than not, we cant get them out of the family home with dynamite.

We have taught them to fly, but they wont leave the nest......sounds like a great time for the "size 8 boot to the bum" in my opinion.

They are 18 and 22, does anyone else have problems like this? Am I being unreasonable.......I don’t think so.

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I knpow quite a few like this--most of them really--and some much older as well--had their child or/ children --and now BACK with their parents--and guess who is looking after the kids--yes the Grandparents--while the Mother of them is out having a good time--



Thank goodness mine are self sufficent

I have just read an article in our local paper that more than 40% of people in the ACT, between the ages of 17 and 32, still live with their parents. In most cases, dependent upon your age, the parents that are allowing this to happen are OUR children. What did we do to create children who have bred a generation who just want to take life easy, abdicate their responsibilities and bludge off their parents, meanwhile owning every gadget known to man in "their" bedroom with the plasma TV, double bed, etc. etc. The only reason they can afford all this, is that they live virtually rent free. Our children had better make sure that they have provided for their future, because you can be sure their children wil not be putting their hands in their pockets to help mum and dad.



I have to admit to being one of the lucky ones in that my children and to a lesser extent, my granchildren all have a good work ethic, but I have a lot of friends who have grave concerns for the future of their granchildren.

Jade, my own children have always worked, it is the grandkids that are the problem. They have been given too much by their parents and not even had to do the dishes or their bedrooms to earn it. I blame my daughter and her husband, not the kids but you would think they would have enough pride to at least do something around the house while Mum and Dad are at work. My parents would never have allowed this, we had to have another job to go to before we left the previous job. No one can tell me there is no work around, I live in the country and if you look for work you will find it.

No one can tell me there is no work around, I live in the country and if you look for work you will find it.

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Yes thats the truth--I always found work--sometimes it wasn't quite what I wanted BUT it earned money that I needed and once the word got around that you were reliable etc soon had more than I could handle

I'd like to know how and when leaving school at 18 came about.

I mean they are immature enough these days but having the ability to drive a car at 17 when still at school is one reason for bad traffic record for under 25's.

Political correctness is the root cause of a lot of the problems with today - kids are not disciplined at school nor at home for fear of being reported to teacher who will then get the parent charged etc. Smacks of Soviet Union.



Kids are encouraged to question every rule and only to obey if they think it is right - so when you see young drivers who are driving like fools - well blame the communist in our bureaucracies and schools who want this - why - beats me - communism died as it just does not work - but they still try. Binge drinking is a new thing - we all drank when teens but we were out working at 14 or 15 and back then - in UK anyhow - you had to do 2 years in the workforce to get into Uni - now as someone said they have their Gap Year and go off back packing - and who pays for that - parents of course who also buy them far too much because seemingly they too were pc'd at school and never learnt either that the word NO exists. I've had in the past girls cry when asked to do a simple job they were employed to do - like ask - "who's calling" when on the switchboard - so that they could announce the caller on putting them thru. One girl age 19 when sent into town to collect documents/cheques - came back without a cheque - saying that she did not know what collect at 2PM meant - so didnt even go to the address. I ask you and this was years back - worse today I'm told.

It is not our age - we were never as bad as that - would have asked - too scared not to as we had respect for anyone older than ourselves. Not today - sad old world.

Yes, Big Val.......and what is going to become of these "kids"? Even worse, what is going to become of the babies they produce and are going to be brought up in the way they think is the right way. They think things should be done their way.....or not at all.....and if our generation object, we get a mouthful of abuse or in a lot of cases, a smack in the mouth, or worse. They get taken to court, a slap on the wrist and then off to do it all again. They think authority is a joke.......which it is lately.

What is going to become of these kids! Beats me - I do suspect that they should bring in blood tests as with so many unmarried mums with different dads for each child - more so now with $5000 on offer - half brother and sisters will marry - and produce even worse problems.

As for bashing up their parents - seems to be on the increase - no respect for parents,teacher,police or government or rules of society or road rules - you name it - that is the dogma to teach the young by Gramsci - along with making the girls promiscuous - I reckon it has now worked a treat and things will only get worse.

I avoid shopping in school holidays if I can as the centres are full of kids behaving badly and parents dont bother to do anything most of the time. During term time go early so that avoid same. Otherwise likely to get your legs knocked out from under you and no one cares.

Worse thing I find is cant walk on the footpaths for adults on bikes not young toddlers on fairy bikes but adults and teens over 18 using them as raceway and snarling at you if you dont jump out of their way fast enough and do the police do anything - not in Tasmania - it is legal to ride on the footpaths even seemingly with those small motorbikes and they are supposed to keep left and give way to legs but no one told them so the elderly can go jump or walk on the grass or road. Seems you need a law to stop it and our pollies cant be bothered to pass it - well only sit 51 days a year for their huge salaries and try to get attention - cant get past the staff. End of harangue.

:):):) Feel better now for sharing my cynicism.

It is bad enough now whith the amount of crime they are able to get away with with nothing done about it--all I can say thank God I may not be around when they grow up--it will be like "Mad Max" What with 10 year olds now committing dreadful crimes as well. Time they came down hard on them--and what a shame that these dead beats that have the kids can't be sterilised B4 they have kids--

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