Pete it doesn't matter now what time' {I} set the clock now. but it did in those days, to get the benefit of daylight savings,

The difference in Melbourne of available daylight varies by some 5 hours between the Summer and winter Solstice? No matter where we set the clock ..

the benfit of moving the clock around I think was to give workers some more daylight time for recreation. 

It certainly has no affect on fading the curtains or cows milking time ...

You are righ there, in those early days before the war it was a 7.30am start and dark, my dad was a carpenter and got my first job with him,

Mackay,

June 21 2015
Sunrise: 6:36am
Sunset: 5:29pm
Day length: 10h 52m

Dec 21 2015

Sunrise: 5:18am
Sunset: 6:43pm
Day length: 13h 25m

For Gerry the available daylight only varies by 2.5 hours Approx . So not a lot to gain by daylight saving . But probably better for tourists to have longer evenings ...

Get enough sunlight as they do not play outside enough so lack vitamin D . 

The below paste is an ongoing debate of sunlight vit D and cancer.

How the Sun Helps Protect Yhttp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/16/sun-can-protect-you-against-skin-cancer.aspxou from Skin Cancer

Several studies have confirmed that appropriate sun exposure actually helps prevent skin cancer. In fact, melanoma occurrence has been found to decrease with greater sun exposure, and can be increased by sunscreens.

One such study revealed that melanoma patients who had higher levels of sun exposure were less likely to die than other melanoma patients, and patients who already had melanoma and got a lot of sun exposure were prone to a less aggressive tumor type.

Another Italian study, published in the European Journal of Cancer in June 2008, also confirms and supports earlier studies showing improved survival rates in melanoma patients who were exposed to sunlight more frequently in the time before their melanoma was diagnosed.

Also, melanoma is actually more common in indoor workers than in outdoor workers, and is more common on regions of your body that are not exposed to the sun at all. UVB radiation has been found to delay the appearance of melanoma if you are genetically predisposed or prone to skin cancer.

Why is the sun so beneficial?

Because it's through sunlight exposure that your body is able to produce vitamin D -- and optimized vitamin D levels are key to preventing numerous types of cancer, including melanoma.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/16/sun-can-protect-you-against-skin-cancer.aspx

Pete was the last few words  "do no tcover up'' We used to go to Henley and other beaches in SA and nearly every kid wore a sun hat "bonnet that covered the face and neck. It's strange but I have no memory up to  the "1950s of much about cancers

When I arrived in Oz in August 1961 supposedly winter it was a heat wave and being a pale Pom I got burnt to a frazzle on Henley Beach ..

I am not saying that some who are pre disposed to it cannot get Skin cancer from too much UVA exposure . But even that does not correlate with Sunlight entirely as NZ for instance receives more UVA due to thinning of the Ozone . But I think we have overdone the slip slap slop and scared people off of Sun exposure  

Therby reducing the vitamin( really an enzyme). D that they get . This opens people up to fragile bones depression and possibly cancer protection . 

After a car accident and spent six weeks in the RMH and three months in rehab, the two docs put me on VIT .D. twice a day but also told me that when home it would not take much sunlight for vit.d. go back to normal I think it was to get about half an hour early morning sun on the skin, twice a week something like that,

Depends where you live .. The current recommendation is much higher in Melbourne in winter for instance . The sun has to be over 45 degrees to get a benefit ..

How Do You Know if You Are Getting Enough Vitamin D?

The key point to understand is that sunlight is composed of about 1500 wavelengths, but the only wavelength that will have your body make vitamin D are UVB-rays when they shine on unexposed skin. The key is that the UVB-rays from the sun actually have to pass through the atmosphere and reach where you are on the earth. This obviously does not occur in the winter for most of us, but the sun's rays are also impeded during a fair amount of the year for people living in temperate climates.

So how do you know if you have entered into the summer season and into the time of year, for your location, where enough UVB is actually able to penetrate the atmosphere to allow for vitamin D production in your skin?

It should be noted that this represents a very small portion of the total radiation from the sun that reaches the earth's surface. Much is filtered out by our atmosphere. So due to the physics and wavelength of UVB rays it will only penetrate the atmosphere when the sun is above an angle of about 50° from the horizon. When the sun is lower than 50°, the ozone layer reflects the UVB-rays but let through the longer UVA-rays.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/26/maximizing-vitamin-d-exposure.aspx

Criky Pete how do you know anything about what your body needs? vid D is only one essential vitamin needed for a healthy body, would I be wrong in suggesting that Vit B is one of the most important needed? Your Doc can do a simple test, blood or urine. one he can do in the surgery.

True but vit D is not a vitamin really but an enzyme we can get enough vitamins from a healthy diet but not vit D you need sun exposure . Which we now do not get enough of .,,Paricularly the elder ones ..,

Bit B are a whole group not just one and include such things as frolic acid . Here is some advise from Vic govt 

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vitamin_B?open

Pete your vit b seems to be better than mine, I'd like to order some with frolic acid, I need help now when I frolic, it's not the same since the exGD, who turned into a dot by the way...and is slowly fading away...

That's alright Radish, you have a right to stay out of the sun.

Stop gloating Gerry, you wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the exploring in that area by brave explorers from the South.

What is natural time?

Let me take a guess in my own time, when I answer, will that be in natural time ?

What we look on as Natural time' must come from Natural events, which humans have given names to describe their length. ie...seconds, minutes, hours, days, etc.

I wonder why we don't have 20 hour clocks . Two sweeps of ten after all we have decimalised everything else . 

Hello Pete

why 2 sweeps

why not just 1 sweep.

5 OClock noon and 10 midnight have a nice ring to it 

no more AM PM and this 0 hundred hours nonsense 

This is getting too technical for me, 20hr clocks, two sweeps, then i sweep,          

Why not a 24 hr cycle.

Talking about cycles two thieves stole mine.

12 pennies in a shilling 20 shillings in the pound nah t 240 pennies in the pound nah too complicated 100 cents in the dollar simple. 

100 minutes to the hour and 10 hours am 10 hours PM simple.

How long was LSD in use for, without any trouble.

The. We had 16oz to the pound 14 llb to the stone I forget how many stones in a ton . 

Then 12 inches in a foot 3 feet in a yard 22 yards in a chain 1764 yards in a mile .  

Gills pints gallons sovereigns furloughs half cowns farthings happenies ..Acres 

no wonder the kids were confused now its 10s and 100s 

time to work on time ..,,

Kids confused? in those days they had to use their brains, no calculator, no tablet to do all the work, also never heard then of some of the complaints they have now. then today if they get hurt go on drugs. plus wasn't easy.

LSD can cause a lot of trouble Seth ask Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds 

"Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds"

AH!!!   that LSD,  long time used in the USA The LSD we used in the days of innocence was a means of purchasing.  I think the Author of Lucy was in a psychedelic haze at the time.

What John Lennon ... He was laid to rest in the Kremlin .. Not many people know that ...