Marten, maybe Anne Ruston, for once, was telling the truth! 
IF liberals have no intention of putting pensioners on the Indue card WHY have they changed the legislation so that they can do so along with ALL others getting any benefits?
Also WHY are people on pensions - age, disability, DVA etc - in the trial areas on the Indue card already?
WHY are they still referred to as "trials' when they have been going on for over 5 years while only meant to have been for 12 months?
WHY are you not able to say no to being on these "trials"?????
Why does it take you YEARS, if ever, to get off these compulsory 'trials' even when you DON"T drink, smoke, gamble or do drugs????

Drew, it is all very well wanting to vote for a party that you can trust but that is an impossibility.  ALL political parties say things they know voters want, until they get into power.  Most times they find things in a worse mess than they could ever dream about.
You should be going by how they behaved WHILE in power and ANYONE who says scumbag and his mob have been leaders while things were tough need their bumps read, BIG TIME!

What LNP policies? Do they actually have any other than promote fossil fuels and buy submarines we won't have for forty years? As for lies will Scotty has raised those into an art form.

Sue Ridge, it is a proven fact that people fair better under Labour than they ever have under liberals.  Regardless of scumbag trumpeting about how they are the better money managers than Labour.
Not only are Labour better at managing the economy but they also care more for the workers than LNP [who care more about making themselves and their rich mates richer]

Joyce

I've never been better off under Labor - even now they are promising us Death Tax.

Suze. Rubbish, stop spreading unsubstantiated LNP fake news. Show a link from Labor that supports your claims. Can't can you, because non exists and never has.

The only scumbags talking about a death tax is the LNP who have dragged this fake news out for the past 4 years trying to scare retirees.

Labor have categorically denied any such policy has ever existed and never will exist.

Karl

Although Australia does not have an official inheritance tax, the distribution of someone's assets can still have a major impact on beneficiaries.

Beneficiaries of a deceased estate may be liable to Capital Gains taxes, taxes for Superannuation death benefits or taxes on any income they make from the deceased estate.

.. hence it is possible to increase these.

Suze

Agree, But those are already in place and have been for a long time. And yes they can be increased at any time by any sitting government LNP, Labor or possibly other.

But your original statement, "under Labor - even now they are promising us Death Tax. " is totally fake propaganda drummed up by the LNP and it's supporters with absolutely no foundation.

So true Farside.   If they weren't going to put pensioners on the Indue card why would they change the legislation so that they can do it IF they win this election.

https://cairnsnews.org/2020/10/09/aged-pensioners-will-be-placed-on-the-indue-cashless-welfare-card/

I posted this on another of your responses, Farside, but you have chosen not to respond. Maybe you'll respond here.

"And Farside, perhaps giving that quote its full context would show that Ruston was talking about those recipients who have been recommended by the Family Responsibilities Commission. Further, there was an  amendment to the legislation stating that no recipient of the age pension … will be placed on the cashless debit card, with the exception of those who volunteer or are referred by child protection, social workers or the commission.  

I note that Labor will cancel the system that was designed to protect vulnerable families where the money was used for alcohol and gambling, not for food and clothing for families. That will be a backward step."

Sue Ridge, not sure what response you are referring to as prior  to the above comment I made no other comment so not surprising I did not respond.  FYI, there was no amendment to the legislation. As I recall it was an amendment was to the motion introducing the second reading. I don't actually have an issue with Ruston's comments in that interview, she was talking about having the conversation, which is not a bad thing.  Maybe watch the whole clip, it's only 90 secs, and she is asked directly if it will be made compulsory.

Farside, this is the post to which I referred..............

https://forums.yourlifechoices.com.au/the_meeting_place/post/federal-election-2022-YLC-member-forum?page=2

https://fireforone.com/2020/02/29/giving-indue-consideration-to-the-pension-in-your-fire-plans/

http://www.antipovertynetworksa.org/will-age-pensioners-be-forced-onto-the-cashless-debit-card/

The amendment or new subsection that expands the definition of ‘Restrictable Payment’ is:

9 Subsection 124PD(1) (after paragraph (a) of the definition of restrictable payment) Insert:

(aa) in relation to a trial participant under section 124PGD or 124PGE, means:(i) a payment of a kind listed in paragraph (a); or(ii) an age pension; or(iii) a social security bereavement payment in relation to an age pension under Division 9 of Part 2.2 of the 1991 Act; or(iv) a distance education payment under the scheme known as the Assistance for Isolated Children Scheme, where the payment relates to a child or children at a Homeland Learning Centre; or [2]

For your reference here is how the terms restricable payment and trigger payment are defined in the Social Security (Administration) Act 1999 in the current enforceable legislation.

restrictable payment:

(a) in relation to a trial participant, means: (i) a trigger payment; or(ii) a clean energy advance under the Family Assistance Act; or(iii) family tax benefit under the Family Assistance Act; or(iv) family tax benefit advance under the Family Assistance Administration Act; or(v) baby bonus under the Family Assistance Act; or(vi) schoolkids bonus under the Family Assistance Act; or(vii) stillborn baby payment under the Family Assistance Act; or(viii) carer allowance; or(ix) carer supplement; or(x) child disability assistance; or(xi) double orphan pension; or(xii) income support bonus; or(xiii) mobility allowance; or(xiv) pensioner education supplement; or(xv) a social security bereavement payment (other than a social security bereavement payment in relation to an age pension under Division 9 of Part 2.2 of the 1991 Act, a mature age allowance under Part 2.12B of the 1991 Act or a special needs pension under Division 10 of Part 2.16 of the 1991 Act); or (xvi) a clean energy advance under the 1991 Act; or (xvii) an advance payment under Part 2.22 of the 1991 Act; or(xviii) an advance pharmaceutical allowance under Part 2.23 of the 1991 Act; or(xix) a mobility allowance advance under section 1045 of the 1991 Act; or(xx) quarterly energy supplement under the 1991 Act; or(xxi) telephone allowance under Part 2.25 of the 1991 Act; or (xxii) utilities allowance under Part 2.25A of the 1991 Act; or (xxiii) a payment under the scheme known as the ABSTUDY scheme that includes an amount identified as pensioner education supplement; or

[This is where they want to amend the legislation to include the Age Pension, Bereavement Payment and Distance Education Payment for the NT and Cape York]

(b) in relation to a voluntary participant, means:(i) a payment of a kind listed in paragraph (a); or(ii) an age pension; or(iii) a social security bereavement payment in relation to anage pension under Division 9 of Part 2.2 of the 1991 Act.

trigger payment means:

(a) a social security benefit (other than a mature age allowance under Part 2.12B of the 1991 Act); or
(b) a social security pension of the following kinds:
(i) a carer payment;(ii) a bereavement allowance, so long as the recipient hasnot yet reached pension age;(iii) a disability support pension;(iv) a pension PP (single);(v) a widow B pension;(vi) a wife pension; or(c) a payment under the scheme known as the ABSTUDYscheme that includes an amount identified as livingallowance. [3]

Sources

[1] Explanatory Memorandum (2019) to the Social Security (Administration) Amendment (Income Management to Cashless Debit Card Transition) Bill 2019, P. 7 <https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/ems/r6399_ems_0db91448-bcc6-4d81-b59b-003d85d2997a/upload_pdf/19171EM.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf
[2] No. , 2019 Social Security (Administration) Amendment (Income Management to Cashless Debit Card Transition) Bill 2019 <https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/legislation/bills/r6399_first-reps/toc_pdf/19171b01.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf?fbclid=IwAR1nJ_K9D0Mg612ZPRaXV3ngMJhPv64jx7wJtpd7XSb4GzhSbw1xYZbqxE8>
[3] Section 124PD (pp. 29-30). Social Security (Administration) Act 1999<https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2019C00243/Download>