Australia ranks dead last in a race we can't afford to lose

Australia ranked dead last out of 61 countries on climate policy in this week’s Climate Change Performance Index and the Climate Council’s analysis also placed Australia last on commitments countries took to COP26. 

“Australia has never been so alone," said Climate Councillor, Professor Lesley Hughes.

"The federal government is now part of a tiny club of countries that is actively trying to water down the text requiring countries to strengthen the steps they are taking to avoid catastrophic climate damage. It’s appalling, dangerous and irresponsible behaviour from our so-called political leaders.”

Are you satisifed with this government's climate policy/attitude? What message would you send to the federal government about climate inaction?

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It is very difficult to compete with other countries that are more populated and have a smaller area to manage, we need to use power more efficiently I think.  The water that is left to run away after cyclones has always been something that has irritated me.

We on the West don't have high mountains like the East so power from rivers is something we will never have.

But we in the West should be saving the water from the skies better than we do, putting the water in the Ord Dam is one thing but it could be sent south to were the population is.

Look what O'Connor did for Kalgoolie many years ago!

 

Hi Celia, I agree with your first paragraph; many of the criticizing countries have Nuclear Power Stations and asking Australia to provide dumping stations for radiated toxic waste. I don't know enough about WA to comment too much but when I lived there for a short time, a state premier was considering a channel to move wasted freshwater down South. An idea that I've had for years is why doesn't Australia build pipelines to move dam waters across Australia (there are multiple pipelines distributing Oil & Gas). Pipelines need pumping stations, the power to run them could be via Solar and such. So much freshwater is going into the sea it's insane.

Getting lectured by the COP26 is like getting slapped with a wet lettuce. Really, do these people actually read their own press releases? The big deal at the root of those who worship at the climate change altar is CO² and how CO² must be reduced. Well, according to the figures released by IPCC, Australia has 1.4% of the world's CO² and by 2030 we will be reducing this by 20% or 0.28%. So that means that Australia produces about 1% of the world's CO².

Now, lets get interesting with the numbers put out by IPCC. They tell us that the CO² in air has risen from .034% to .038% in 50 years. Assuming this is correct, the world CO² has increased in 50 years by...004%. Per year that is .004 divided by 50 = .00008%.  (Getting confusing -but stay with me). Of that because we only contribute 1%, our emissions would cause CO² to rise .00008 divided by 100 = .0000008 %. Of that 1%, we supposedly emit, the governments wants to reduce it by 20% which is 1/5th of .0000008 =.00000016% effect per year they would have on the world CO² emissions based on their own figures. That would equate to an area in the average room, as the size of a small pin.

Now, there is climate change, of that there is no doubt, and a portion of the change can be attributed to mankind. Whilst we are given a lot of facts and figures around climate change, nobody will tell us what percentage of the climate change is man-made. Volcanoes are erupting all over the world and spewing noxious gases into the atmosphere but we are not told the percentage of damage this is doing. BTW, Australia is the only continent without active volcanoes. We do know that throwing money at the problem is sure to make it go away, according to those who complain about Australia.

 

Sue, what you say is not understood by many of the AGC/CC faith.  It would appear that many are people who never passed Year 12 Physics, Chemistry, Biology and Mathematics.

The so-called "Climate Scientists" have always resorted to the "if you're not a Climate Scientist, you cannot find fault with our reports and conclusions".  This appeal to authority style of argument is used by people who are afraid that they will be shown to have flaws in many aspects of their proposals

If a person adds on Climate Science/Meteorology and Statistics to their formal studies, the arguments from organisations such as "The Climate Council" are seen to be even more tenuous.

The only good thing to come out of COP26 was that the economies of Glasgow, Scotland, the UK and the business jet hire companies all got massive boosts.

If COP26 had genuinely been about working out appropriate futures for power generation to all countries and climate variations we would not have seen the grandstanding from so many world "leaders" and so many prancing activists who've never done science even at school let alone at University level.  It would've been engineers and scientists and no politicians.  It would've been so boring that it wouldn't have even rated more than a 20 second sound bite on SBS.

Oh Sue, surely you know by now not to waste your wisdom and understanding on those entrenched in the 'climate change' cult.

Sue, you should do a little more research into the effects of volcanoes upon atmospheric gases. Over the past 50 years they have made neglible difference as they have a fairly short term effect and are a small fraction of human emissions. There is plenty of research and monitoring on volcanic emissions if you look for it. An easily understood discussion on the topic here.

Global CO2 levels fluctuated between 180-300 ppm for the 400,000 years preceding the industrial revolution, reflecting natural variations in the earth’s orbit and varying levels of planet ice coverage. We should be in a cooling phase based on the natural cycles but these are being overwhelmed by the 50% increase in human produced CO2 concentrations to 420ppm since the Industrial Revolution (280 ppm), most of this since 1950 (315 ppm). 

 

I'm not surprised that we are last. We have a "do nothing" government that wants to maintain the status quo and continue to subsidise the fossil fuel industry while starving renewables.
Morrison must get dizzy with all his spin and lies.
See https://www.crikey.com.au/dossier-of-lies-and-falsehoods/  

 

Well said, hit the nail on the head.

Gezzar, the fossil fuel industry in Australia gets no specific subsidies as such.  They get the same Tax concessions as any other business attempting to create a positive industry.

On the other hand, all elements of the renewable industry are only there because of significant and excessive subsidies.  For example one wind farm receives approximately $200k State Government subsidy per turbine per year for the contracted life of the farm (20 years).  This subsidy is paid whether the turbine is generating it's rated 3.5MW or draining from the Grid (when the wind isn't blowing the turbines must be kept turning or risk damage to their bearings.  To do this they must pull power from the Grid).

If you have substantive evidence that the fossil fuel industries in Australia do receive any subsidies, please provide it.

In this particular "race" Australia is in the best place in real terms.

Well said Couldabeen. But words wasted here I'm afraid.

This country will be DEAD in the Lack of water unless this so-called government looks to nuclear power in the future. By that I mean NOW. Pipelines have been talked about for many years but nothing was done. We have disused open-cut mines that could be used to store millions of litres of water, so why not use them.

Tim Flannery breathlessly and emotionally told us in 2007 that dams would never be full ever again because rain wouldn't fill them. How did that work out?

Of course back in 2007 it was all about 'global warming'. Since that actually didn't come to pass, we now have 'climate change' and the excess water/rain we have at the moment is blamed on that instead.

Nothing like moving the goal-posts to fit the rheteric.

In 2007 Flannery said that the dams will never fill again so why are people on the Lachlan River getting ready for floods? Wyangala Dam is overflowing once again.

 

Water spills from a dam.

Ronloby, having drinking water in mines would be deadly,   the acid runoff further dissolves heavy metals such as copper, lead, mercury into groundwater or surface water and the rate and degree by which acid-mine drainage proceeds can be increased by the action of certain bacteria.

 

Re the nuclear power that is expensive/takes ages to build and had a short life AND is dangerous if an accident -- or non-accident like a bomb -- or earthquake, look at Chernobyl and Fukushima still deadly after a long time.    Plus the radioactive waste.

We sure do not need any more radiation at all.

Fresh water always goes into the sea, you can't stop it no matter how many dams are built but there is also a little thing called evaporation and transpiration commonly known as ::

The Water Cycle

All of the water on the planet is part of the same system. Right now, there is water in rivers, lakes, oceans, swimming pools, your body, under the ground and even in clouds. The same water that is in a swimming pool or at the beach today might be a part of the clouds tomorrow. This is because of the water cycle. The water cycle relies on evaporation and transpiration to turn liquid water into a gas, like oxygen in the air you breathe. When water evaporates, it rises in the sky. The water vapor (water that is a gas instead of liquid) collects to form clouds. The clouds get heavy and eventually the water falls back to the Earth as rain, snow and sleet. This cycle is always happening and it is necessary to keep all living things alive.  

Jack, a point that is not discussed in the burning fuels for power is that every tonne of coal that is burnt recreates up to 400kg of "new" water.  This was water in the atmosphere millions of years ago that has been locked up in long chain hydrocarbon molecules that constitute both the solid fuel fossil fuels and the liquid and gas fuels.

Carbon Dioxide and water are essential for the life on this planet and adding new reserves contributes to increased growth rates of all plants.  The mass of the atmosphere amounts to Terratonnes of gases (including water vapour).  It is a massive thermal store and the same as any object of great mass, it can take a long time to change it's direction of travel.

The atmosphere is generally regarded as being nominally 80% Nitrogen and 20% Oxygen.  There is less than 1% of other gases that include Carbon Dioxide.  This CO2 amounts to being around 0.04%  This is what the plant life struggles to suck in and use for cell growth, liberating Oxygen after the process.  This only happens during conditions of light and during the hours of darkness, the plants revert to taking in Oxygen and releasing Carbon Dioxide.

Leon, anyone who takes the Climate Council seriously is being badly mislead.  They are not working objectively but with a declared political objective.

The COP26 was not an objective gathering of people educated in real climate science.  The number of activists who were given stage time shows that the science was taking a place well down from political ideologists.

No, I am not happy with the policies of this Government.  They have allowed themselves to be bullied into taking actions that are not in the best interests of this country and the future of all concerned.

 

I noticed little miss Greta Thunberg, who did not actually attend COP26 this year (just huffed and puffed outside) has pronounced the proceedings "Blah blah blah"

In all her ill-considered pronouncements over the past few years not once have I heard her actually come up with a plan to change the things she is whining about. Where is her plan to ensure that 'rich' countries continue to make enough money to subsidise the 'poor' countries in their transitions to the new uptopia? Where is her plan to ensure a sufficient base-load power generation to make all the wind turbines and solar panels when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow? Where is her plan to support vulnerable populations who will not be able to afford the rising prices on everything, you know luxuries like food, heating, cooling, health? Where is her plan to curb population growth (surely if there are fewer people then they eat fewer cattle so less methane, right?). Where is her plan to transition one global industry to another?

Please Ms Thunberg, show us your costed global plan to save the world. Sorry but shutting coal mines and oil rights just won't cut it. If not, then "blah, blah blah" to you too.

 

Dear KSS. 

For the record I am 76 and an ex oil field engineer.

If you  are over 50 the you have no right to vote and make poor decisions on climate change.

Leave that to the 5 to 54 years old who will suffer while you are entombed in your grave.

You do not have to be fire fighter to report a bush fire.

You do not have to be an oceanographer to report tidal waves are rolling in.

You do not have to be a  politician to send out fake news.

You do not have to be a  politician to take bribes.

 

 

The fact is that climate is always changing, nothing new here.  The greatest impact man has made is the clearing of forests, which resulted in the erosion of soil and fast run off of water.  Water was not able to be absorbed by the soil and replenish the ground water supplies.  This inevitably leads to a drying out, with increasing droughts and when it does rain, floods.  With the higher fluctuations in temperatures there are also more damaging cyclones when they do occur. 

The single best thing we could do is repair the soil by replanting trees and building dams to get the water into the ground again.  We need to stop that fast run off and make use of water in a better way.  For example in Singapore the rainwater that falls gets collected in reservoirs which become parks and recreational areas.  Then this same water gets filtered and put back into the system to feed the households there.  Here, it runs out to sea, taking with it the best soil from our precious farming land.  There is no water shortage, only bad management!  

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